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Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:59 pm
by ShelC
Then they should've had these dates and plans figured out by now. To essentially get an entire offseason worth of work in in 2 months? I get the money part of it, just feels like the NBA had time to get these things lined up and now is pushing dates out without any consensus from the teams or players.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:15 pm
by Split T
Ya that’s fair, I’m sure every front office hates this. Same with the Lakers, Heat, Nuggets, Celtics. I would expect to see a lot of load management this year from those teams.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:19 pm
by ShelC
They're going to save/make money starting earlier, but have an inferior product. It's a trade-off, just sucks. And again, what was stopping them from holding the draft last week or this week and having FA a week after? The draft date should've been the easiest and first thing to figure out.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:23 pm
by Split T
Ya they pushed it back to figure things out...I think when they pushed it back they were probably expecting a January or later start. I wonder what would stop them from moving it up a week. Make it Nov. 11th now and get an extra week for free agency. Or just do free agency before the draft. That brings extra cap problems into play though.

But teams have had plenty of time to prep for the draft. Feel like moving it up a week, even now, would be doable.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:09 pm
by ShelC

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:04 pm
by In2ition
If that's the start of training camp, when does FA start?

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:21 am
by ShelC
No less than a week after the draft, probably 3-5 days later and maybe no moratorium.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:43 am
by Split T
Ya probably Nov. 22 or around there

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:24 am
by Indy
I just can't see a way they will start training camp in 5 weeks.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:48 am
by carey
So the draft is Nov. 18th and then they start training camp 2 weeks later? That will be fun for rookies.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:48 am
by Mori Chu
I'm worried that it sounds like they don't want to do a "bubble" or similar for next season. COVID is as rampant as it's ever been; there were 70k new cases just yesterday, and last Thu/Fri were over 80k new cases, a new record. We haven't gotten through the pandemic yet. If anything it's more widespread and dangerous than it was before the bubble season. Why wouldn't they take the same level of precaution for next season?

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:52 am
by Indy
Mori Chu wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:48 am
I'm worried that it sounds like they don't want to do a "bubble" or similar for next season. COVID is as rampant as it's ever been; there were 70k new cases just yesterday, and last Thu/Fri were over 80k new cases, a new record. We haven't gotten through the pandemic yet. If anything it's more widespread and dangerous than it was before the bubble season. Why wouldn't they take the same level of precaution for next season?
Because they are trying to draw the line between being perfect (or damn close) like they were in the bubble, to what is happening in the NFL and MLB. Yep, they had quite a few cases and moved/cancelled games as a result, but they are playing. And every game cancelled costs the owners and players a ton.

Not saying it is smart, just saying why.

By the way, I don't plan to be back in the arena to watch Suns basketball until there is a widely distributed, globally verified vaccine.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:12 pm
by Split T
There’s no chance the players would agree to a bubble again

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:44 pm
by Indy
Split T wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:12 pm
There’s no chance the players would agree to a bubble again
I think it depends on how long it was. If there were 3-4 bubbles around the country, and you really did play more "regional series" that could work. I think they are just trying to get through next summer/fall when there should be wide-spread vaccine deployment.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:44 am
by ShelC
This happened.


Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:57 am
by Split T
Also the Jazz were sold

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:03 pm
by ShelC

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:49 pm
by Mori Chu
LOL, how does Philly go from Hinkie to Colangelo to Morey? Didn't they hate having a wheeling-and-dealing, asset-hungry "process" GM? Oh well. I do think Morey's one of the best there is, and they're quite smart to hire him. I'd wager he will give much more priority to shooting for that team; they really need to add some marksmen to their roster. I also bet he'll try to ship out one of Embiid or Simmons to get assets.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:21 pm
by Indy
A 5 year deal is huge. I am wondering if it is fully guaranteed.

Re: Around the League: Offseason

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:22 pm
by Indy
Split T wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:57 am
Also the Jazz were sold
Yeah, I am going to keep hoping. If they went for 1.6B in a down market, hopefully it will make Sarver think about it. I just am not sure how many multi-billionaires are willing to buy and willing to keep the franchise here.