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Re: Second Round (Non Suns) Playoff Games
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:02 am
by ShelC
Re: Second Round (Non Suns) Playoff Games
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:04 am
by Superbone
Indy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:50 am
I don't love him, but he is amazing. People complain that he went to Golden State, but he gave everything he could possible give to OKC. He didn't owe them anything else. And if you have 2-3 teams able to pay you the max, why not go to the bay area as a 20-something multi-millionaire with a great organization and great teammates? Would you avoid joining a company that offers you the most money because they are too good at what they do already?
Then why leave?
Re: Second Round (Non Suns) Playoff Games
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:09 am
by Superbone
ShelC wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:02 am
That seemed to come out of nowhere. Was there a particular play when he was injured?
I was just watching an interview with him where he said he doesn't care about the Western Conference Finals. He's got bigger goals. Winning the NBA Finals.
Re: Second Round (Non Suns) Playoff Games
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:10 am
by In2ition
ShelC wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:02 am
Is speculation good enough to qualify as Breaking News?
Re: Second Round (Non Suns) Playoff Games
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:14 am
by Indy
Superbone wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:04 am
Indy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:50 am
I don't love him, but he is amazing. People complain that he went to Golden State, but he gave everything he could possible give to OKC. He didn't owe them anything else. And if you have 2-3 teams able to pay you the max, why not go to the bay area as a 20-something multi-millionaire with a great organization and great teammates? Would you avoid joining a company that offers you the most money because they are too good at what they do already?
Then why leave?
Why leave OKC? Or why leave the Bay? If it is the Bay, my first thing would be to go do your own thing. The entire league whined and bitched about him going to join Curry/Klay/Green. Why not go to a team that can't win in the playoffs, as far away from the Bay as possible, and win a chip there? It isn't like Kyrie on his own was getting them anywhere, any more than Booker in Phoenix. I mean Portland had a better roster than Brooklyn before KD joined.
Re: Second Round (Non Suns) Playoff Games
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:15 am
by Indy
Superbone wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:09 am
ShelC wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:02 am
That seemed to come out of nowhere. Was there a particular play when he was injured?
I was just watching an interview with him where he said he doesn't care about the Western Conference Finals. He's got bigger goals. Winning the NBA Finals.
IIRC, it was a minor contact injury. He grimaced and started holding it and limping a bit, but kept playing for a short time.
Re: Second Round (Non Suns) Playoff Games
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:33 am
by Mori Chu
Wow, devastating news for the Clips. Lot of teams being hit hard by injuries. There's a good lesson here about the risk of going all-in on 2-3 guys in free agency to try to carry your team to a title. That is biting the Laker, Clips, and Nets to varying degrees.
If our worst setback ends up being a sore shoulder and 1-2 games missed for covid protocol for Chris Paul, that's great luck.
Re: Second Round (Non Suns) Playoff Games
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:19 pm
by Furlanfufi
Philly collapsing in the 4th
Re: Second Round (Non Suns) Playoff Games
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:33 pm
by Mori Chu
This Atlanta comeback has been amazing. Good on them. Came back from a big deficit to win tonight and go up 3-2 in the series. Trae had 39 points.
Re: Second Round (Non Suns) Playoff Games
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:47 pm
by The Bobster
It seems Doc Rivers will only get you so far.
Re: Second Round (Non Suns) Playoff Games
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:58 pm
by Wally_West
Jazz about to lose to the Kawhi-less Clippers…
Wow.
Re: Second Round (Non Suns) Playoff Games
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:07 pm
by Wally_West
So Suns playing a Clippers team on Sunday or Tuesday, most likely without Kawhi or beat up jazz team on Tuesday. How we feeling about this?
Re: Second Round (Non Suns) Playoff Games
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:13 pm
by Split T
Wally_West wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:07 pm
So Suns playing a Clippers team on Sunday or Tuesday, most likely without Kawhi or beat up jazz team on Tuesday. How we feeling about this?
I feel really good about playing the clippers without Kawhi
Re: Second Round (Non Suns) Playoff Games
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:47 pm
by Mori Chu
If Clips advance and Kawhi is out, even if we are missing Chris Paul for a few games, we're going to the Finals.
Re: Second Round (Non Suns) Playoff Games
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:03 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
We were capable to endure losing Paul for ONE game, then LA destroyed us after the emotional rush settled on our side. Utah also had a chance to see how LAC reconfigured their rotation, so I think this goes to 7.
Re: Second Round (Non Suns) Playoff Games
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:26 pm
by Superbone
Split T wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:13 pm
Wally_West wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:07 pm
So Suns playing a Clippers team on Sunday or Tuesday, most likely without Kawhi or beat up jazz team on Tuesday. How we feeling about this?
I feel really good about playing the clippers without Kawhi
Same. I just finished watching the game. I found myself hoping for the Clippers to win. I prefer our odds with home court advantage and no Leonard. Plus, it wouldn’t be the first time we’ve knocked the Clippers out of the playoffs.
Re: Second Round (Non Suns) Playoff Games
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:35 am
by ShelC
Definitely want to see a Game 7 but I think we beat either team regardless.
Also Philly kinda sucks. Embiid always seems like he's laboring, Tobias Harris never really put it together with all that skill and just kind of floats, Simmons is an offensive liability and everyone else should be coming off the bench. Not a lot of talent throughout the roster. I've become a big fan of the Hawks since McMillan took over. Really nice roster, fun style of play and Trae is just awesome. They're not all that dissimilar from us, tho I think we play a lot more disciplined overall.
Re: Second Round (Non Suns) Playoff Games
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:08 am
by ShelC
Re: Second Round (Non Suns) Playoff Games
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:31 am
by Wormwood
Looks like we'll be playing the Clippers on Sunday. Jazz threw their best punch in the first half, landed it squarely, and still lost.
I really don't like the idea of playing the Clippers. They were basically built to beat a team like ours, which is constructed very similarly to the Jazz. If we want to be the favorites, CP3 has to be back for Game 1. Otherwise, we're probably starting off 0-1 hole and losing home court advantage.
That said, without Ibaka and Leonard, and when the Suns have their full roster, they should be favored. The Clips are also going to come into this series beat up, and playing long minutes, increasing the odds they suffer injuries in the WCF (when you're playing hurt and tired, your odds of sustaining bigger injuries goes up as you compensate for all the little stuff that hurts)
Re: Second Round (Non Suns) Playoff Games
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:44 am
by Split T
Wormwood wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:31 am
Looks like we'll be playing the Clippers on Sunday. Jazz threw their best punch in the first half, landed it squarely, and still lost.
I really don't like the idea of playing the Clippers. They were basically built to beat a team like ours, which is constructed very similarly to the Jazz. If we want to be the favorites, CP3 has to be back for Game 1. Otherwise, we're probably starting off 0-1 hole and losing home court advantage.
That said, without Ibaka and Leonard, and when the Suns have their full roster, they should be favored. The Clips are also going to come into this series beat up, and playing long minutes, increasing the odds they suffer injuries in the WCF (when you're playing hurt and tired, your odds of sustaining bigger injuries goes up as you compensate for all the little stuff that hurts)
I said it in the other thread, but without Kawhi I’m just not that worried. We have much better perimeter defenders. We can switch everything on them and take away a lot of their open 3 point looks. I think we’re better suited to beat their defense than Utah is as well. Utah has shooters, but they rarely put pressure on the rim and only have 1 guy who can attack switches. They also have a C who’s useless against switches. Ayton isn’t great, but with how he’s been playing, I have some faith he’ll take advantage of the small lineup and feast on the glass.