Re: Around the League: Off-season
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:57 pm
OK, so define a flop.
You know it when you see it. Like Lebron falling forward and doing a roll when running down the court and someone touches his back.
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Re: Around the League: Off-season
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:20 am
Re: Around the League: Off-season
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:59 am
The NBA can't write "Flopping: You know it when you see it." in the rule book.
While everyone agrees that flopping hurts the game, at some point embellishment is a legitimate competitive tactic. No one can clearly define the line between savvy and egregious well enough to put a written rule into place.
I'm all for having as little flopping as possible, but it's just not realistic to remove it completely and I think the NBA has done a lot better in recent years when compared to 5-6 years ago.
While everyone agrees that flopping hurts the game, at some point embellishment is a legitimate competitive tactic. No one can clearly define the line between savvy and egregious well enough to put a written rule into place.
I'm all for having as little flopping as possible, but it's just not realistic to remove it completely and I think the NBA has done a lot better in recent years when compared to 5-6 years ago.
Re: Around the League: Off-season
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:55 am
And I should add, it you call it a technical, instead of a normal turnover, we KNOW it will become part of the referees’s arsenal to favor their agenda: Lebron will never be taken out of a game for flopping technicals, and the lesser players will get away with it depending on the moment. Is the same with illegal defense, they call it once or twice a game.
Re: Around the League: Off-season
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:04 am
The thing with the arm hook is it’s really subtle. If refs could catch it in real time, they’d probably call it correctly, but if they don’t have the right angle, they’ll keep getting fooled no matter what the rules are emphasizing.
Re: Around the League: Off-season
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:18 am
Smh @ FVV
DeRozan leaving him gave him a bigger opportunity but still
Kawhi
Now Lowry
and possibly Siakam, man must be wondering what going on tsk tsk
DeRozan leaving him gave him a bigger opportunity but still
Kawhi
Now Lowry
and possibly Siakam, man must be wondering what going on tsk tsk
Re: Around the League: Off-season
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:56 am
It seems they are not even trying to extend Ayton or Bridges this summer, especially listening to Jones' interview on ESPN last night. Apparently Sarver still hasn't learned from the Joe Johnson fiasco.
DA earned a max contract extension. Period. It should have been offered to him immediately upon free agency. Just like it was for Doncic, Young, and SGA. You don't mess around with the future. It won't surprise me at all if he wants to leave next summer and go to a team that will actually feature him in their offense.
Re: Around the League: Off-season
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:11 pm
1) Maybe they have already told him they will max him but they needed to sign the other guys first.JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:56 amIt seems they are not even trying to extend Ayton or Bridges this summer, especially listening to Jones' interview on ESPN last night. Apparently Sarver still hasn't learned from the Joe Johnson fiasco.
DA earned a max contract extension. Period. It should have been offered to him immediately upon free agency. Just like it was for Doncic, Young, and SGA. You don't mess around with the future. It won't surprise me at all if he wants to leave next summer and go to a team that will actually feature him in their offense.
2) The other 3 you mentioned are the face of their franchise, and the best player on their team. Most nights, Ayton is 3rd, and some he is 4th.
Re: Around the League: Off-season
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:13 pm
I'm not worried about the Ayton/Bridges extensions. I think both get done.
Re: Around the League: Off-season
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:22 pm
agreed.
Re: Around the League: Off-season
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:35 pm
Bridges was at the game last night with the fellas but not DA 
Re: Around the League: Off-season
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:49 pm
Re: Around the League: Off-season
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:59 pm
Listening to the Jones interview last night, it sure sounded like they want to wait and see how Ayton plays this season and let him become a restricted free agent. I hope I'm wrong.
Re: Around the League: Off-season
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:16 pm
Re: Around the League: Off-season
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:33 pm
Watching that game last right I would have rather been in the Bahamas too.
Re: Around the League: Off-season
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 3:01 pm
In some situations, yes, but we’ll be over the cap even without the Ayton extension, so no. His cap hold might be high enough that it wouldn’t matter much anyways.
Also, I’m perfectly fine waiting on his extension. If he’s worth the max we’ll give it to him. If he’s not, someone will give it to him and we might be able to work out a sign and trade.
Re: Around the League: Off-season
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:03 pm
Ok for Jeremy Re: his concerns about us not looking after DA
and others like Split who just like crunching the numbers
See thread
and others like Split who just like crunching the numbers
See thread
Re: Around the League: Off-season
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:08 pm
Personally leaving the maths and dollars aside, I just not concerned either.
Monty has preached to DA that he will see the results on the court by doing the little things. Always talks about how much he appreciates DA for his sacrifice and it's obvious DA has taken Monty guidance to heart.
I'm sure outside of talking team success that he knows the paycheck coming too once he continues to grow in this role. DA himself says in countless interviews that he don't care about the touches, he understands how he can impact the game so wanting to leave to feature in an Offense I really don't feel is in his thought process
Monty has preached to DA that he will see the results on the court by doing the little things. Always talks about how much he appreciates DA for his sacrifice and it's obvious DA has taken Monty guidance to heart.
I'm sure outside of talking team success that he knows the paycheck coming too once he continues to grow in this role. DA himself says in countless interviews that he don't care about the touches, he understands how he can impact the game so wanting to leave to feature in an Offense I really don't feel is in his thought process
Re: Around the League: Off-season
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:40 pm
I’m pretty sure he’ll get the max, but that deal scares me. I’d feel a lot better if he took a John Collins type deal..5/125
Honestly I’d rather give Mikal the 5 year contract. What if we paid Ayton more per year, but gave Mikal 5 years…
So like 5/110 for Mikal and 4/110 for Ayton?
Honestly I’d rather give Mikal the 5 year contract. What if we paid Ayton more per year, but gave Mikal 5 years…
So like 5/110 for Mikal and 4/110 for Ayton?
Re: Around the League: Off-season
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:28 am
I don’t think he really even feels comfortable being featured. They have to push him to get aggressive as is. I think he is right where he needs to be at this moment. He is being groomed into his position and is making strides. He just went to the finals and got to see what a max big man taking over the game looks like from an up close view of defending him for six games in a row. If that ain’t motivation…bajanguy008 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:08 pmPersonally leaving the maths and dollars aside, I just not concerned either.
Monty has preached to DA that he will see the results on the court by doing the little things. Always talks about how much he appreciates DA for his sacrifice and it's obvious DA has taken Monty guidance to heart.
I'm sure outside of talking team success that he knows the paycheck coming too once he continues to grow in this role. DA himself says in countless interviews that he don't care about the touches, he understands how he can impact the game so wanting to leave to feature in an Offense I really don't feel is in his thought process