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Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:17 pm
by ShelC
Not that I would rush to make a trade, but the Nets are shopping DWill who could be of interest to the Kings.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:30 pm
by EDC
Was it about taking Gay, Stauskas and WCS?

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:37 pm
by da_suns_fan
carey wrote:
virtual9mm wrote:Methinks that someone is trying to play hardball with the Suns...

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2 ... oenix-suns
Sporting News reported last week that the Suns had been shopping Bledsoe. But trading Bledsoe, according to league sources, will not prove to be easy for Phoenix. “There was a reason,” one general manager told SN, “that no one wanted to give him that ($70 million) contract last year. I think you still have to worry about his health. I think you worry about how coachable he is, too.”
The Kings, one source said, are expected to express interest in Bledsoe. While Sacramento has been buried in rumors involving center DeMarcus Cousins, a league executive said the Kings have been far more focused on improving the point guard position. The Kings started Darren Collison at the position, but would like to move him into a backup role. And if Sacramento keeps Cousins, bringing in his former Kentucky teammate and good friend surely would help to keep him happy.
If not Cousins, Willie Cauley-Stein? Whom else on the Kings is remotely worth Bledsoe? And would an article like this have leaks from both the Suns and whomever else they are dealing with? Games within games here.
I'll take Gay, WCS, and Stauskas (total $18M) for Bledsoe, Goodwin & Tucker (total $20M). I'd throw in the Cleveland pick next year or our own lottery protected pick next year. We could still look into moving the Morris twins too.

Knight/FA
Booker/Stauskas
Gay/Warren/Marcus
Kieff/FA
Len/WCS

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:45 pm
by Sunsfan4life
ShelC wrote:Not that I would rush to make a trade, but the Nets are shopping DWill who could be of interest to the Kings.
Eric Bledsoe is a better player then Deron Williams and when you factor in age I don't think it's close TBH.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:47 pm
by carey
EDC wrote:Was it about taking Gay, Stauskas and WCS?

Yeah, I had Espo read one of my tweets on the Rise show before. This is the 2nd time one of mine has been on KTAR.
https://twitter.com/careystephen/status/615598256899256320

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:53 pm
by Split T
Anyone hear anything about khris Middleton? Kawhi and butler are better, but I don't think by much. We know kawhi isn't leaving San Antonio and while it appears butler wants out of Chicago, looks like he prefers LA. What would it take to pry Middleton away from Milwaukee? Supposively he and knight were good friends. Anyways, he'd be my FA target, not sure Milwaukee will let him go though.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:11 pm
by ShelC
Bucks can match, so it'd have to be a ridiculous offer.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:34 pm
by carey
https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/615615492103892992

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:04 pm
by Cap
carey wrote:
Cap wrote:Well, that takes us out of the running for a max level free agent. At least we won't have to waste the summer on Kevin Love rumors or whatever.
Nope. It doesn't. He'll wait till we strike out on the major free agents before he signs the deal. Cap hold is $8.9 Mil.
Are they not doing the "verbal agreement is a contract" thing these days?

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:23 pm
by carey
Cap wrote:
carey wrote:
Cap wrote:Well, that takes us out of the running for a max level free agent. At least we won't have to waste the summer on Kevin Love rumors or whatever.
Nope. It doesn't. He'll wait till we strike out on the major free agents before he signs the deal. Cap hold is $8.9 Mil.
Are they not doing the "verbal agreement is a contract" thing these days?
Sure but it doesn't take us out of the running. We were always going to have to move Tucker or Marcus to do it. We can still do that and sign a max FA even with the verbal agreement.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:29 pm
by Sunsfan4life
Split T wrote:Anyone hear anything about khris Middleton? Kawhi and butler are better, but I don't think by much. We know kawhi isn't leaving San Antonio and while it appears butler wants out of Chicago, looks like he prefers LA. What would it take to pry Middleton away from Milwaukee? Supposively he and knight were good friends. Anyways, he'd be my FA target, not sure Milwaukee will let him go though.

Me and my buddy had an argument about him the other day. My Boy is convinced someone will offer him a max deal. I was like Middelton? no freakin way. His reasoning is Middleton is an ascending player and will look closer to the MLE when the cap explods.

The Max for Middleton?

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:32 pm
by carey
That's nuts.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:53 pm
by Split T
I don't think he'll get the max, but with the cap going up, being restricted, his age and his strong play last year, he's gonna get more than most people think. I don't think 4/50 is out of the question.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:58 pm
by Split T
16/5/3/2 per 36 with .470/.410/.860 shooting splits. And numbers also show him to be an elite defender. Could he make a Jimmy butler jump next year? I think it's possible

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:56 pm
by Mori Chu
More like Mid-level-ton, am I right??? ...

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:07 pm
by carey
Mori Chu wrote:More like Mid-level-ton, am I right??? ...
Um Knight just got $14M/yr for essentially the same production, no?

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:08 pm
by Superbone
Yeah, but was Middleton close to being an all-star in the East? I think not.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:19 pm
by ShelC
Ha!

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:22 pm
by Phoenix219
carey wrote:https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/615615492103892992
Well, fuck. My hiatus is extended another year. Fuck Bledsoe. Peace ya'll.

Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2015)

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:31 pm
by Shabazz
Sad news:
https://twitter.com/leb_basket_net/status/615649130707222528