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INFORMER wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:21 pm

https://twitter.com/KellanOlson/status/1050804372920127488 Sounds like the combo GM Sarver tried with B____s and Babby.

Certainly feels like it... Not sure why Sarver is going back to that since it worked so well in the past

iLLmatic wrote:

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:21 pm

https://twitter.com/KellanOlson/status/1050804372920127488 Sounds like the combo GM Sarver tried with B____s and Babby.

Certainly feels like it... Not sure why Sarver is going back to that since it worked so well in the past

This time it will be the same but different.

Crawford was used as a pick and roll initiator for Minnesota last year and I wonder if he would look good sharing PG duties alongside Booker as a lights out shooter. I think that Jones is on to sonething here.

https://hoopshype.com/2018/10/12/jamal- ... rd-rumors/

iLLmatic wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:38 pm

Certainly feels like it... Not sure why Sarver is going back to that since it worked so well in the past

A number of front offices do it this way. I think the failure was more in who occupied those roles for us in the past.

virtual9mm wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:25 pm

Crawford was used as a pick and roll initiator for Minnesota last year and I wonder if he would look good sharing PG duties alongside Booker as a lights out shooter. I think that Jones is on to sonething here.

https://hoopshype.com/2018/10/12/jamal- ... rd-rumors/

During his most recent season with the Minnesota Timberwolves, Crawford was most often used as the ballhandler in a pick-and-roll offense. When used on this play type, he averaged 0.90 points per possession. That ranked Top 25 (minimum: 200 possessions) out of the 86 players in the league that qualified.

Anyone know where to find the stats for Booker? This is basically how we used him last year.

carey wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:39 pm

virtual9mm wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:25 pm

Crawford was used as a pick and roll initiator for Minnesota last year and I wonder if he would look good sharing PG duties alongside Booker as a lights out shooter. I think that Jones is on to sonething here.

https://hoopshype.com/2018/10/12/jamal- ... rd-rumors/

During his most recent season with the Minnesota Timberwolves, Crawford was most often used as the ballhandler in a pick-and-roll offense. When used on this play type, he averaged 0.90 points per possession. That ranked Top 25 (minimum: 200 possessions) out of the 86 players in the league that qualified.

Anyone know where to find the stats for Booker? This is basically how we used him last year.

Don't know what the numbers for Booker looks like, but found an awesome scouting video of Crawford in this role:



If the Suns run Point Booker, and if they have Crawford playing a backup PG role, they could very well run the same kinds of plays to simplify the playbook. But I'm less convinced that Crawford is a good complement to Booker after watching this.

carey wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:39 pm

virtual9mm wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:25 pm

Crawford was used as a pick and roll initiator for Minnesota last year and I wonder if he would look good sharing PG duties alongside Booker as a lights out shooter. I think that Jones is on to sonething here.

https://hoopshype.com/2018/10/12/jamal- ... rd-rumors/

During his most recent season with the Minnesota Timberwolves, Crawford was most often used as the ballhandler in a pick-and-roll offense. When used on this play type, he averaged 0.90 points per possession. That ranked Top 25 (minimum: 200 possessions) out of the 86 players in the league that qualified.

Anyone know where to find the stats for Booker? This is basically how we used him last year.

https://stats.nba.com/players/ball-hand ... Time&dir=1

Edit: Booker is pretty far down the list in terms of percentage of possessions, fairly effective at 0.85 points per possession

Boston blog did an extensive analysis on Crawford. I'd look at him as a bench leader along with Warren, who could clean up his garbage. Certainly better than Canaan:

https://hardwoodhoudini.com/2018/09/18/ ... cs-rumors/

We're desperate if we want to sign 38-year-old Jamal Crawford. I might have liked him 5 years ago, but he's washed up, and I'm worried that he'll want to shoot and hold the ball too much. Not sure that he's what we need.

Beggars can't be choosers.

Jamal? It's 2018. Come on now.

I'm not sure I agree. This smells a lot like the Jim Jackson signing waaaay back in the day. Everyone thought he was washed up and he gave the Suns a really good year (before falling off a cliff in the second).

Crawford's a solution for shoring up the bench, though. He's not a starter.

Starting 5 on opening day: crawford, jackson, ariza, ryno, ayton

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The offense isn’t PG heavy under Igor, just bring the ball up and initiate the offense. He doesn’t need to facilitate each field goal or probe the defense. Plus with a little luck it’s only for 20-30 games until Jones makes a move.
I just can’t stomach losing by 40 early into the season. Cannon and Harrison are awful Point guards. Canaan can barely muster 8 minutes of useful playmaking a game.

I've always loved Crawford as a player, and I've read in places he has a great work ethic. That being said, we really need to ride with our young guys. They need court development time. I'd like to have Crawford here in a mentoring/spot duty roll (way better than Troy Daniels in my opinion), but not much more than that.

Rumor is the Suns just offered Crawford the vets min.

Ugh, don't think Crawford has anything left.

I don't think I like this signing. If he were still good, he'd go to a better team.

128 pages this offseason. Tomorrow this thread will be done.

carey wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:04 pm

128 pages this offseason. Tomorrow this thread will be done.

And not even a counting thread this year.