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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Prospect Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:41 pm
by Split T
Josh Jackson had a big game in Kansas win over #2 Baylor, 23 points, 10 boards, 2 blocks, 1 steal, 1 assist. Dennis Smith Jr with 13 points 11 boards 15 assists and just 2 turnovers in a loss last night. I'm warming up to Dennis Smith a bit, but would still take Fultz and Ball ahead of him at PG.

I imagine Fultz and Smith will put up similar numbers in the NBA as far as the big stats go(points, rebounds, assists) but I think they'll get them in different ways. Smith is the better athlete, Fultz is the better shooter. I imagine Fultz will be more efficient and more effective playing without the ball. I see Smith being a ball dominant player who gets a lot of points and assists, but probably not a super efficient scorer and will probably turn the ball over a lot.

Ball is hard to project, there is no one in the nba with his style of play. He's a big fast playmaker who can shoot with range, but will probably struggle to score in the half court. Kidd with a jumpshot is the most often used comparison. Kidd averaged 16 points, 10 assists, 6 rebounds, and 5 steals per 40 minutes as a freshman in college. Ball is at 17 points, 9 assists, 7 rebounds, and 2 steals. So offensively they look pretty similar, but I don't think Ball will be the defender that Kidd was.

Ntilikina is hard to project as well since there is not much info on him. But I think he'll defend at a high level and has a great feel for the game. He's not a super athlete, or a super shooter, or a super finisher, but he does everything well and I think he'll be a solid pg who can defend 3 positions.

Fox is very fast, very good passer, very good athlete. Needs to get stronger and needs to get a jumpshot. He's not as far along as Wall was at Kentucky, but they do play similar.

At PG my rankings go, Fultz-Ball-(Ntilikina or Smith)-Fox. Smith used to be 5th, but he's pushing Ntilikina for 3rd right now.

Re: 2017 NBA Draft Prospect Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:06 pm
by pickle
LazarusLong wrote:
pickle wrote:How do the regions work? The team's actual location is not factored in, or let's say not a limiting factor?
If you have one region that has two very good teams, say a #1 and a #4 in national rankings, one of those may be moved to a region that has lesser-ranked teams, say nobody in the top 10, with the outlier seeded #1 in that region. Doesn't always happen, but there's a possibility.
Thanks LL. So it is more or less region based with exceptions made for outliers. Gotcha.

Re: 2017 NBA Draft Prospect Discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:07 pm
by carey
Well you can kiss a potential #1 seed good-bye. Oregon just kicked our ass on national Tv by 27.

Re: 2017 NBA Draft Prospect Discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:33 pm
by In2ition
carey wrote:Well you can kiss a potential #1 seed good-bye. Oregon just kicked our ass on national Tv by 27.
Sorry, not feeling bad for UofA. I'm a Suns fan, but not a Wildcat fan.

Re: 2017 NBA Draft Prospect Discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:39 pm
by Superbone
In2ition wrote:
carey wrote:Well you can kiss a potential #1 seed good-bye. Oregon just kicked our ass on national Tv by 27.
Sorry, not feeling bad for UofA. I'm a Suns fan, but not a Wildcat fan.
I grew up in Sun Devil country.

Re: 2017 NBA Draft Prospect Discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:44 pm
by carey
It's cool guys. Not everyone can be awesome.

Re: 2017 NBA Draft Prospect Discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:39 pm
by SDC
oregon just blanked lauri markannen.

Re: 2017 NBA Draft Prospect Discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:33 am
by Flagrant Fowl
carey wrote:It's cool guys. Not everyone can be awesome.
Have fun being awesome. I'll be over here winning. By 27.

Re: 2017 NBA Draft Prospect Discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:53 am
by carey
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
carey wrote:It's cool guys. Not everyone can be awesome.
Have fun being awesome. I'll be over here winning. By 27.
I will! Thank you for the well wishes!

Re: 2017 NBA Draft Prospect Discussion

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:55 pm
by SDC
the boston pick can be had.

Re: 2017 NBA Draft Prospect Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:03 pm
by In2ition
Has anyone seen Anzejs Pasecniks play? He's interesting, in that he might be had in the second round, as he is 22 and doesn't come with the "been on the radar forever, but still really young" label.

Re: 2017 NBA Draft Prospect Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:58 pm
by Nodack
A CA High School Basketball Star Scored 92 Points Last Night
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/02/08/h ... cla-commit

Thats a lot of points. Half were cherry picking while not getting back on D though.

Re: 2017 NBA Draft Prospect Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:00 pm
by In2ition
Of course, that's Lonzo Ball's little brother. Still 41 in the 4th Q is a lot of points and he was still guarded by 3 guys sometimes, and only a sophomore no less.

Re: 2017 NBA Draft Prospect Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:14 pm
by pickle
In2ition wrote:Of course, that's Lonzo Ball's little brother. Still 41 in the 4th Q is a lot of points and he was still guarded by 3 guys sometimes, and only a sophomore no less.
2021 Miami pick, here we go!

Re: 2017 NBA Draft Prospect Discussion

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:53 am
by carey
Has anyone seen Marcus Keene? This Ringer article on him is interesting: https://theringer.com/marcus-keene-cent ... .joije53o4

The videos are crazy. Tons of step-back 3's with Curry range. I worry about small guys in the NBA so he won't be an exception but damn he is entertaining.

Re: 2017 NBA Draft Prospect Discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:33 pm
by Split T
Josh Jackson had 31 points 11 boards 4 assists on 12/15 from the field and 2/4 from 3 today.

Re: 2017 NBA Draft Prospect Discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:01 pm
by In2ition
He would look really nice in a Suns uniform.

Re: 2017 NBA Draft Prospect Discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:04 am
by Shabazz
I think the top 3 are pretty clear for me and I'd be disappointed with any pick 4 or below.

Re: 2017 NBA Draft Prospect Discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:09 am
by Gladiator
Shabazz wrote:I think the top 3 are pretty clear for me and I'd be disappointed with any pick 4 or below.
Cue Suns for pick 4 then

Re: 2017 NBA Draft Prospect Discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:16 am
by Split T
Shabazz wrote:I think the top 3 are pretty clear for me and I'd be disappointed with any pick 4 or below.
Fultz, Ball, and Jackson? Those are my clear top 3. We'd still get a nice prospect at 4, but I'd be disappointed to miss out on the top 3 as well.