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Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 8:43 pm
by Mori Chu

Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 8:57 am
by In2ition
Indy wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 3:36 pm
In2ition wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 9:06 am
Indy wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 11:35 pm
Ah, so it is adult behavior to call names when someone points out your repeated use of liars as sources. Got it. lol
I didn't quote Newsmax here, so that makes who the liar?
You did. You shared a tweet from one of their "reporters" which is no different than posting some bullshit from Hannity, getting called out on it, then saying "I DiDn'T pOsT a FoX nEwS QuOtE!"
I don't know who that Newsmax reporter is. It wasn't in the bio of either of the people that was tweeted, that I noticed. Maybe you know who they are, but I don't.

Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:03 am
by Indy
In2ition wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 8:57 am

I don't know who that Newsmax reporter is. It wasn't in the bio of either of the people that was tweeted, that I noticed. Maybe you know who they are, but I don't.
In2ition wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 2:23 pm
Even the Agents inside the bureau are tired of it being corrupted, politicized, and weaponized.


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Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 11:02 am
by In2ition
Jenna Ellis was a Republican & Conservative lawyer, hardly a Newsmax person, but I missed that she had that.

Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 11:17 am
by Nodack
She’s not just a lawyer. She is America’s lawyer.

She is Trumps personal counsel and Newsmax pays her to talk about the election Biden stole from Trump. Obviously hardly a Newsmax person and being Trumps lawyer makes her America’s lawyer of course.

https://thejennaellisshow.com/podcasts/ ... is-podcast
As a constitutional law attorney, former senior legal advisor and personal counsel to President Donald J. Trump, Jenna Ellis believes in the rule of law and the importance of integrity in our elections.

Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 11:26 am
by In2ition

Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 1:58 pm
by AmareIsGod
In2ition wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 11:26 am
More reason for Russia to invade Ukraine? Not connecting the dots here on the assumptions. Ukrainians are racist and/or white supremists?

Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 4:18 pm
by In2ition
AmareIsGod wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 1:58 pm
In2ition wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 11:26 am
More reason for Russia to invade Ukraine? Not connecting the dots here on the assumptions. Ukrainians are racist and/or white supremists?
It confirms he's a White-Supremecist, but is he also a Ukrainian and the Azov Battalion & Right Sector supporter?

Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 4:29 pm
by Mori Chu
LOL, I had heard that a fringey theory was getting around about the shooter being linked to Azov/Ukraine, and I wondered how long it would take for In2 to repost it here. Clockwork.

Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 4:30 pm
by Mori Chu
By the way, sadly there were two more mass shootings today.



Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 8:16 pm
by In2ition
Mori Chu wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 4:29 pm
LOL, I had heard that a fringey theory was getting around about the shooter being linked to Azov/Ukraine, and I wondered how long it would take for In2 to repost it here. Clockwork.
Fringey Theory? I don't think he's connected to them, but certainly seems to follow some type of ideology. Are you now sticking up for this shooter or the ideology?

You got me, haha.

Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 8:18 pm
by In2ition
Mori Chu wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 4:30 pm
By the way, sadly there were two more mass shootings today.


Crazy

Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 9:30 am
by Mori Chu

Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 9:51 am
by In2ition
Mori Chu wrote:
Wed May 18, 2022 9:30 am
I would like to see the data that they used to create this, because I am not confident it's being counted correctly.

When was this data collect and presented? Did it account for this past weekend?

Where would you put the Buffalo shooter and the shooter in Laguna Beach?

Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 9:54 am
by Split T
The Buffalo shooter is definitely in the white supremacy category.


Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 10:10 am
by In2ition
Split T wrote:
Wed May 18, 2022 9:54 am
The Buffalo shooter is definitely in the white supremacy category.

I agree with him being a white supremacist, but according to his manifesto, he would be considered a left wing white supremacist, and I don't think it's counted as that, as they put all white supremacists into a "right wing" category, so it makes it disingenuous and molded incorrectly to push a narrative.

I think there needs to be some real truth given, and not some massaging of the numbers to fit the narrative that the ADL wants to push.

Where was the Laguna Beach shooter placed? How about the New York subway shooter? Or the Waukesha parade attacker?

And before anyone feels the need to come caping for the ADL to come attack me for these questions, be honest and look at it with some unbiased eyes.

Btw, they are all bad. We can all agree with that.

Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 10:17 am
by Split T
What in his manifesto would make him a left wing white supremacist? I didn’t read his manifesto

Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 10:29 am
by In2ition
He rebuked conservativism and Christianity at least five times in his lengthy statement of personal beliefs.

On page 7, the shooter expressly stated he is not Christian.
  • “Are you a Christian? No,” Gendron wrote. “I do not ask God for salvation by faith, nor do I confess my sins to Him. I personally believe there is no afterlife. I do however believe in and practice many Christian values.”
  • Elsewhere on page 7, he wrote: “Are you a facsist? Yes, fascism is one of the only political ideologies that will unite Whites against the replacers. Since that is what I seek, calling me a facsist would be accurate.”
  • On page 8, he slammed conservatism: “Are you a conservative? No, conservatism is corporatism in disguise, I want no part of it.”
  • On page 9, Gendron explained how his affinity for communism influenced his ideology: “When I was 12, I was deep into communist ideology, talk to anyone from my old highschool and ask about me and you will hear that.
  • “From age 15 to 18 however, I consistently moved farther to the right. On the political compass I fall in the mild-moderate authoritarian left category, and I would prefer to be called a populist.”
  • On page 158, Gendron declared in capital letters: “CONSERVATISM IS DEAD, THANK GOD.” Weird how he thanks God, but doesn't believe in God.

Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 12:15 pm
by Mori Chu
No. He mentions left wing only once in his manifesto, and its content makes clear that he is a right wing authoritarian.

Re: Acts of domestic terrorism

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 12:41 pm
by In2ition
Is affinity for Communism not left wing?

“Green nationalism is the only true nationalism,” the Buffalo suspect’s manifesto reads, echoing a line used by the white nationalist who in 2019 killed 51 people in Christchurch, New Zealand.
Is this also not left?

Are you “right wing”?
Depending on the definition, sure.
Are you “left wing”?
Depending on the definition, sure.
Are you a socialist?
Depending on the definition. Worker ownership of the means of production? It depends on who those workers are, their intentions, who currently owns the means of production, their intentions and who currently owns the state, and their intentions.

Sounds left wing, socialist, or even communistic to me.