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Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:33 pm
by specialsauce
Split T wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:28 pm
But, if you’re ready for my next bad idea: What if Russell Westbrook gets moved and then bought out? I’m 95% sure I’m a no on this, but there’s a small chance it could be a good idea.
Here’s my thought, he doesn’t want to be seen as a vet min player. I’ve heard that once you accept a vet min deal, that’s all you’re getting. We can give him the TPMLE, we could even give him a bogus non-guaranteed 2nd year if it looks better for him. We tell him, hey come in and come off the bench and play 20 minutes. You’ll start when we rest CP3. He’s got to buy into the team concepts as well. Does he have a relationship with Monty? Did their time in OKC overlap?
I’d simply tell him, you have to cooperate or we’ll just sit you. Now do I think he’d cooperate? Probably not, but of all the people we’re talking about as a backup 1 available in FA, Westbrook is definitely the most talented. No one’s been able to rein him in, but I wouldn’t hate letting Monty try. As long as it doesn’t impact our future cap in anyway, I’d gladly add to Sarver’s tax bill to experiment with Russ.
Anyways, I’m assuming 99% of you will hate this idea, but maybe it’ll at least spark conversation haha
Man are you a closet Lakers fan? You’ve been proposing acquiring all of their old farts lol
We got a narc here
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:39 pm
by Split T
Hey, you wanted someone with the potential to make a difference in a playoff game. It might be a negative difference but Westbrook will make a difference haha
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:46 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Westbrook is Iverson of this generation. He can't function on the court without being the focal point, and that include being in a starting role.
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 5:06 pm
by Split T
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Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:04 pm
by Vladimir_Taltos
specialsauce wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 2:04 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 12:12 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:31 am
None
None of them should play any minutes in games that matter
We put stickers on our car hoping it’ll go faster.
OK, Mr. Expert. How about we give them a freakin' chance before we discard them like yesterday's trash?!
Finally you address me properly.
Also, yesterday’s trash is tomorrow’s meatloaf. Nobody likes meatloaf. Okogie+Washington+Jock = meatloaf
Is that Meatloaf in some other language? Okogiewashjock - Meatloaf?
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:19 pm
by ShadowHawke
136 pages of rosterbation and counting.
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:22 pm
by specialsauce
Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:04 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 2:04 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 12:12 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:31 am
None
None of them should play any minutes in games that matter
We put stickers on our car hoping it’ll go faster.
OK, Mr. Expert. How about we give them a freakin' chance before we discard them like yesterday's trash?!
Finally you address me properly.
Also, yesterday’s trash is tomorrow’s meatloaf. Nobody likes meatloaf. Okogie+Washington+Jock = meatloaf
Is that Meatloaf in some other language? Okogiewashjock - Meatloaf?
That sounds…..not delicious
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:23 pm
by Split T
ShadowHawke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:19 pm
136 pages of rosterbation and counting.
What else are we supposed to do?
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:24 pm
by Split T
Kyle Kuzma…I’d love to pull off a Crowder for Kuzma trade…what would that take?
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:11 pm
by SunsRIt
Split T wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:24 pm
Kyle Kuzma…I’d love to pull off a Crowder for Kuzma trade…what would that take?
Could we get Sidd Finch too?
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:22 am
by Flagrant Fowl
Split T wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:24 pm
Kyle Kuzma…I’d love to pull off a Crowder for Kuzma trade…what would that take?
I thought about him the other day when there was some chatter about trading Crowder. I thought he was dramatically overrated for most of his career in part due to the Lakers bump, but he showed me some things last year in Washington. He's still a goofball who I'd have a hard time trusting in a big spot in the playoffs.
He'd be a good fit with the Suns on paper, but I think the Wizards overvalue him a bit because their roster lacks athletic switchable guys like Kuzma. Seems like it would take at least a lightly protected future 1st to get him and I'd rather give Cam Johnson a proper run at the starting role before making that kind of deal for Kuzma.
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:53 am
by Mori Chu
Split T wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:28 pm
But, if you’re ready for my next bad idea: What if Russell Westbrook gets moved and then bought out?
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:53 am
by Superbone
Let's just hope Cam Johnson isn't another Zarko Cabarkaba. He has his best game ever against the Knicks where he got beat up and he hasn't been the same since.
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:11 am
by In2ition
Superbone wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:53 am
Let's just hope Cam Johnson isn't another Zarko Cabarkaba. He has his best game ever against the Knicks where he got beat up and he hasn't been the same since.
I don't think it will be the case. He hit the game winner after he got roughed up. He looked like he was starting to try to find his bearings again into the playoffs though. I think he will bounce back this yr, and hopefully his confidence builds off of that game.
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:15 am
by Indy
Cam has already far exceeded anything Zarko did in the NBA... well, except turnovers.
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Rk Player^ From To G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1 Zarko Cabarkapa 2004 2006 150 4 1550 234 548 .427 24 88 .273 210 460 .457 .449 148 202 .733 98 214 312 85 33 25 119 221 640
2 Cameron Johnson 2020 2022 183 36 4422 658 1495 .440 389 998 .390 269 497 .541 .570 194 230 .843 124 535 659 254 130 52 119 286 1899
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Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:44 pm
by Split T
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:49 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
That's really encouraging. I can't recall ever seeing Dario that svelte. Must be the man bun.
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:57 pm
by Split T
Wouldn’t be surprised if we’re hoping to play him at the 4 a decent amount this year
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:08 pm
by Split T
Ok here’s an idea:
3 team trade with a Cleveland and Indy
Cleveland signs and trades Sexton to us on a 3/40 deal with a player option on year 3. Starts just under 13 million.
We send Jae Crowder and Cam Payne to the Cavs with maybe a 2nd round pick?
Then send Landry Shamet to Indiana with a 2nd round pick as well.
We would be hard capped with a sign and trade so that’s why we’d have to shed salary to get under the hard cap. That probably makes it too difficult as I’m sure Indy would want more to play ball, but it would give us:
Paul/Booker/Bridges/Johnson/Ayton with
Sexton/Lee/Craig/Saric/Biyombo off the bench.
DWJ/Okogie/Wainright/Landale the deep bench and 3 open roster spots.
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:23 pm
by Superbone
Indy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:15 am
Cam has already far exceeded anything Zarko did in the NBA... well, except turnovers.
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Rk Player^ From To G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1 Zarko Cabarkapa 2004 2006 150 4 1550 234 548 .427 24 88 .273 210 460 .457 .449 148 202 .733 98 214 312 85 33 25 119 221 640
2 Cameron Johnson 2020 2022 183 36 4422 658 1495 .440 389 998 .390 269 497 .541 .570 194 230 .843 124 535 659 254 130 52 119 286 1899
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In2 gets it. My point was about Zarko never being the same after Danny Fortson upended him. So far, Cam hasn’t been the same since getting beat up by the Knicks.