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Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:29 am
by Superbone
specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:44 am
Now tell us how humble you are
Man, what a cynic!
Seems like a good guy. Glad to have him on the team. Thanks for the interview, Shel. I enjoyed reading it.
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:05 pm
by Indy
And saucey of all people calling out his braggadocio
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:29 pm
by specialsauce
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:29 am
specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:44 am
Now tell us how humble you are
Man, what a cynic!
Seems like a good guy. Glad to have him on the team. Thanks for the interview, Shel. I enjoyed reading it.
He’s accomplished just about nothing in this league, but speaks like a ten time all star!
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:29 pm
by specialsauce
Indy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:05 pm
And saucey of all people calling out his braggadocio
Pot meet kettle Indiana
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:09 am
by TOO
When can I start the DaRon Holmes II draft bandwagon?
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:11 am
by Superbone
TOO wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:09 am
When can I start the DaRon Holmes II draft bandwagon?
Never heard of him. We have a thread for that though.
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:12 am
by Superbone
Suns fall to 7 in Bleacher Report future power rankings:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/su ... 343adcd5f8
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:17 am
by Superbone
Has Phoenix's Best Chance to Win a Title Passed Them?
NBA.com's Shaun Powell wonders if the best chance for the Phoenix Suns to win it all has already come and gone.
https://www.si.com/nba/suns/analysis/ph ... nba-finals
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 10:29 am
by carey
I think we are all wondering that. Booker, Bridges, & Ayton are still young but we're going to be cash strapped & not able to acquire another star to go with them which is necessary.
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 11:07 am
by Split T
I don’t think we will be all that cash strapped when the cap spikes in a few years. It’ll be right about the time we need to replace CP3. I think we’ll have options. People will want to play here as well with Booker.
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:15 pm
by Superbone
NBA 2K23 cover man Devin Booker ranked just outside top-10
https://arizonasports.com/story/3286771 ... de-top-10/
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 4:12 pm
by Superbone
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 4:24 pm
by SunsRIt
I’m trapped behind their paywall so I won’t be reading the article, but what I see sounds about right.
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:59 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:50 am
I guess KD is out then.
2021-22 Season
Deandre Ayton: 58 games played
Kevin Durant 55 games played
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 1:58 am
by Superbone
SunsRIt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 4:24 pm
I’m trapped behind their paywall so I won’t be reading the article, but what I see sounds about right.
► Show Spoiler
Duane Rankin
Arizona Republic
Phoenix Suns fans didn’t need another reason to have issues with referees.
Betsperts just gave them one.
The website tallied up some figures and concluded the Suns have committed more fouls over the last seasons than any other team in the NBA.
21-22 20-21 19-20 18-19 17-18 Total
Phoenix Suns 1633 1374 1609 1932 1807 8355
Memphis Grizzlies 1620 1349 1546 1801 1900 8216
Toronto Raptors 1607 1526 1559 1724 1783 8199
Washington Wizards 1545 1555 1634 1701 1746 8181
Philadelphia 76ers 1590 1456 1529 1745 1811 8131
Houston Rockets 1692 1407 1566 1803 1597 8065
L.A. Clippers 1528 1383 1594 1913 1638 8056
Atlanta Hawks 1534 1392 1548 1932 1606 8012
New York Knicks 1672 1473 1464 1713 1682 8004
Brooklyn Nets 1670 1371 1510 1763 1688 8002
Add Chris Paul's longstanding issues with Scott Foster , these numbers give Suns fans even more fuel to hate the referees.
The Suns committed the second-most fouls in the NBA in Monty Williams’ first season as their head coach.
This was after tying Atlanta for most fouls committed in a season during Igor Kokoskov’s first – and last season – leading the Suns in 2018-19.
This was Phoenix’s second-worst season in franchise history at 19-63.
The season before?
Phoenix was whistled for the third-most fouls in the 2017-18 season when Earl Watson was fired after an 0-3 start and replaced by Jay Triano.
The Suns have also gone from being last in defensive rating in 2017-18 and 29th in 2018-19 to 17th in 2019-20 in Williams' first season, sixth in 2020-21 and third last season.
So is it fewer fouls leading to better defense, vice versa, or something more?
Probably all three and more.
Still, Phoenix being whistled for more total fouls over the last five seasons than any other team in the NBA will give its fans more reason to boo louder at the referees this season.
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 3:00 am
by SunsRIt
Superbone wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 1:58 am
SunsRIt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 4:24 pm
I’m trapped behind their paywall so I won’t be reading the article, but what I see sounds about right.
► Show Spoiler
Duane Rankin
Arizona Republic
Phoenix Suns fans didn’t need another reason to have issues with referees.
Betsperts just gave them one.
The website tallied up some figures and concluded the Suns have committed more fouls over the last seasons than any other team in the NBA.
21-22 20-21 19-20 18-19 17-18 Total
Phoenix Suns 1633 1374 1609 1932 1807 8355
Memphis Grizzlies 1620 1349 1546 1801 1900 8216
Toronto Raptors 1607 1526 1559 1724 1783 8199
Washington Wizards 1545 1555 1634 1701 1746 8181
Philadelphia 76ers 1590 1456 1529 1745 1811 8131
Houston Rockets 1692 1407 1566 1803 1597 8065
L.A. Clippers 1528 1383 1594 1913 1638 8056
Atlanta Hawks 1534 1392 1548 1932 1606 8012
New York Knicks 1672 1473 1464 1713 1682 8004
Brooklyn Nets 1670 1371 1510 1763 1688 8002
Add Chris Paul's longstanding issues with Scott Foster , these numbers give Suns fans even more fuel to hate the referees.
The Suns committed the second-most fouls in the NBA in Monty Williams’ first season as their head coach.
This was after tying Atlanta for most fouls committed in a season during Igor Kokoskov’s first – and last season – leading the Suns in 2018-19.
This was Phoenix’s second-worst season in franchise history at 19-63.
The season before?
Phoenix was whistled for the third-most fouls in the 2017-18 season when Earl Watson was fired after an 0-3 start and replaced by Jay Triano.
The Suns have also gone from being last in defensive rating in 2017-18 and 29th in 2018-19 to 17th in 2019-20 in Williams' first season, sixth in 2020-21 and third last season.
So is it fewer fouls leading to better defense, vice versa, or something more?
Probably all three and more.
Still, Phoenix being whistled for more total fouls over the last five seasons than any other team in the NBA will give its fans more reason to boo louder at the referees this season.
Thanks ‘bone
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 2:06 pm
by JeremyG
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:59 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:50 am
I guess KD is out then.
2021-22 Season
Deandre Ayton: 58 games played
Kevin Durant 55 games played
Durant literally averaged 30.0 games per season the last 3 seasons.
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 2:07 pm
by JeremyG
SunsRIt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 4:24 pm
I’m trapped behind their paywall so I won’t be reading the article, but what I see sounds about right.
They got rid of their paywall. Most articles are free now, and there is no limit on the number of free articles you can read.
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 2:08 pm
by JeremyG
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 11:07 am
I don’t think we will be all that cash strapped when the cap spikes in a few years. It’ll be
about 2 to 3 years after we need to replace CP3.
Fixed it for you.
Re: Suns 2022 Off-Season Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 2:24 pm
by Split T
JeremyG wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 2:06 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:59 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:50 am
I guess KD is out then.
2021-22 Season
Deandre Ayton: 58 games played
Kevin Durant 55 games played
Durant literally averaged 30.0 games per season the last 3 seasons.
You have to count the year he missed with an Achilles tear for that to be true. Also still more productive than Ayton, his last 3 years(really 2) VORP is higher than Ayton’s VORP over his entire career.