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carey wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:16 am

Have we worked out Chandler Hutchison?

No, he shut down before the combine. He got a promise somewhere.. some say the bulls.

The Bobster wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:29 am

TheOriginalOriginal wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:11 am

Nobody speculates, everyone seems to talk in definitives. Like they know exactly what a player will be, how the team will react, etc.

People like to use their 20/20 hindsight to reinforce the idea that they can judge basketball talent as well as the professionals do.

They will tell you "yes, I wanted to draft this guy" or "I wanted to trade for this guy before he was a star" but they don't mention the other dozen s*** draft choices they would have made or countless unrealistic or bad trades they wholeheartedly endorsed.

BRAVOOOOOOOO!!!!

Can we stick this Quote somewhere visible as a disclaimer to now a then refresh people’s minds?

Aztec Sunsfan wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:14 am

The Bobster wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:29 am

TheOriginalOriginal wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:11 am

Nobody speculates, everyone seems to talk in definitives. Like they know exactly what a player will be, how the team will react, etc.

People like to use their 20/20 hindsight to reinforce the idea that they can judge basketball talent as well as the professionals do.

They will tell you "yes, I wanted to draft this guy" or "I wanted to trade for this guy before he was a star" but they don't mention the other dozen s*** draft choices they would have made or countless unrealistic or bad trades they wholeheartedly endorsed.

BRAVOOOOOOOO!!!!

Can we stick this Quote somewhere visible as a disclaimer to now a then refresh people’s minds?

Some of us also have no problem saying we were wrong for backing certain players (Trey Burke oops lol).

https://twitter.com/Suns/status/1008040656529309696

Interesting list. Does anyone like Josh Okogie at #31?

TheOriginalOriginal wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:41 am

Aztec Sunsfan wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:14 am

The Bobster wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:29 am

TheOriginalOriginal wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:11 am

Nobody speculates, everyone seems to talk in definitives. Like they know exactly what a player will be, how the team will react, etc.

People like to use their 20/20 hindsight to reinforce the idea that they can judge basketball talent as well as the professionals do.

They will tell you "yes, I wanted to draft this guy" or "I wanted to trade for this guy before he was a star" but they don't mention the other dozen s*** draft choices they would have made or countless unrealistic or bad trades they wholeheartedly endorsed.

BRAVOOOOOOOO!!!!

Can we stick this Quote somewhere visible as a disclaimer to now a then refresh people’s minds?

Some of us also have no problem saying we were wrong for backing certain players (Trey Burke oops lol).

I'm wrong often...mostly for falling for long, skilled, athletes who under achieved in college. (Anthony Randolph, Perry Jones, Chris Walker)

carey wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:59 am

Interesting list. Does anyone like Josh Okogie at #31?

I'd be fine with him there. I don't have strong feelings about him either way. I think he's a better prospect than Reed, but I wouldn't have many expectations.

TheOriginalOriginal wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:11 am

Nobody speculates, everyone seems to talk in definitives.

In my opinion, I don't like how definitively you stated that.

carey wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:59 am

Interesting list. Does anyone like Josh Okogie at #31?

YES! I love that list. I like that they're bringing in Colson.

Split T wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:01 am

Anthony Randolph, Perry Jones, Chris Walker

I was a huge Anthony Randolph guy. I really like Perry Jones III after his freshman year, but then he plateaued and I cooled on him considerably.

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:40 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:01 am

Anthony Randolph, Perry Jones, Chris Walker

I was a huge Anthony Randolph guy. I really like Perry Jones III after his freshman year, but then he plateaued and I cooled on him considerably.

I really liked Anthony Bennett. I probably wouldn't have taken him #1, but definitely in the Top 5.

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:37 pm

TheOriginalOriginal wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:11 am

Nobody speculates, everyone seems to talk in definitives.

In my opinion, I don't like how definitively you stated that.

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:40 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:01 am

Anthony Randolph, Perry Jones, Chris Walker

I was a huge Anthony Randolph guy. I really like Perry Jones III after his freshman year, but then he plateaued and I cooled on him considerably.

Don't worry - Suns fans (including myself) have been guessing wrong on athletic forwards going back to Tim Perry (I was guilty on that one) and even well before that (Stretch Howard).

I thought getting Kyle Macy was going to be a brilliant move (not quite). And I didn't think Larry Nance would amount to much. But I wasn't one of the ones booing Dan Majerle because they were disappointed on missing out on Jeff Grayer and Derrick Chievous!

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:38 pm

YES! I love that list. I like that they're bringing in Colson.

Have you seen this? Colson performs very well according to Nylon Calculus. He reminds me a lot of PJ Tucker offensively. https://twitter.com/NylonCalculus/status/1007269285671133185

https://twitter.com/esidery/status/1008044882596749312

Still think its Ayton and Holiday next week, unless they move up for Shai given their Kentucky guard tendencies. Is Ayton/Holiday perfect? Probably not, but we'd end up an all-star caliber C and a solid to good starting PG.

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:38 pm

carey wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:59 am

Interesting list. Does anyone like Josh Okogie at #31?

YES! I love that list. I like that they're bringing in Colson.

Agreed

TheOriginalOriginal wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:56 pm

Still think its Ayton and Holiday next week, unless they move up for Shai given their Kentucky guard tendencies. Is Ayton/Holiday perfect? Probably not, but we'd end up an all-star caliber C and a solid to good starting PG.

I think that Holiday would be a mistake at 16, but I'm all for trading out of 16 for a higher pick or young vet star in a package.

I'd be ok with Holiday but I think there will be a better player on the board. If you assume Ayton, Doncic, Bagley, JJJ, Bamba, Porter, Carter, Trae, Knox, and Bridges are the first 10 picks, or at least gone before we pick, at the very least, one of Zhaire, Bridges(Miles), Shai, Lonnie, Sexton, or Robert Williams will be available. I wouldn't want to draft Williams after taking Ayton, but I'd gladly take Shai, Bridges, Zhaire, or Lonnie. Sexton would be intriguing as well.

Drafting a SG at 16 would be such a waste of a pick. We have so many needs, a backup SG is the least of our worries right now. I would trade up or stand pat for a PG or trade the pick altogether before I drafted a backup SG.