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Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:04 pm
by AmareIsGod
specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:55 pm
AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 7:20 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:24 pm
The suns being bad is messing with your perception. He’s
on pace to play 56 games this year. Yes he’s injury prone and yes he’s overpaid, thats why talking about role players like KCP is even a question. He’s a lot better than KCP, who’s been really bad for Orlando this year.
We'll be lucky if he plays in 45. I'd safely wager the under on 56. It's not just the fact that he's always injured, it's the fact that his injuries are hip bruises (tonight) and other little things he can't play through. He's like Mr. Glass with the pain tolerance of my 5 year old daughter.
Exactly. He is impossible to root for. He's the softest player to ever don a Suns jersey
I shit so hard on the trade and Beal for the longest time after we got him and received a lot of pushback until I finally relented to give it a chance. Big fucking nope. I knew it was a bullshit trade from the get go. Good numbers on arguably the worst team with a history of injuries and a somewhat redundant skill set to Booker. That's what we needed! The decline of Booker has coincided with Beal cursing this roster. Booker was still elite when we traded for KD and was playing great when it was just the Big 2. Getting Beal was such a massive blunder.
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:22 pm
by specialsauce
AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:04 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:55 pm
AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 7:20 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:24 pm
The suns being bad is messing with your perception. He’s
on pace to play 56 games this year. Yes he’s injury prone and yes he’s overpaid, thats why talking about role players like KCP is even a question. He’s a lot better than KCP, who’s been really bad for Orlando this year.
We'll be lucky if he plays in 45. I'd safely wager the under on 56. It's not just the fact that he's always injured, it's the fact that his injuries are hip bruises (tonight) and other little things he can't play through. He's like Mr. Glass with the pain tolerance of my 5 year old daughter.
Exactly. He is impossible to root for. He's the softest player to ever don a Suns jersey
I shit so hard on the trade and Beal for the longest time after we got him and received a lot of pushback until I finally relented to give it a chance. Big fucking nope. I knew it was a bullshit trade from the get go. Good numbers on arguably the worst team with a history of injuries and a somewhat redundant skill set to Booker. That's what we needed! The decline of Booker has coincided with Beal cursing this roster. Booker was still elite when we traded for KD and was playing great when it was just the Big 2. Getting Beal was such a massive blunder.
I got fooled into thinking it was a bunch of missed games due to "injuries" aka wizards tanking. Boy is he a losing player
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:30 am
by Mori Chu
IMO the reason the NBA ratings are down isn't because of players taking rest nights, nor because of the proliferation of 3s, nor the lack of a new generational American-born star, or any of that nonsense. The lack of fan interest comes down to one single thing, one crucial flaw:
The games don't matter.
With an 82-game season, each individual game carries very little weight, so there's no real point in watching. It's just like baseball in that way; they have 162 games or whatever they have, so each one means jack squat. Football by contrast, each week the game means a heck of a lot, it's appointment viewing. It's not inherent in the sport; college basketball has around 30 games a year and those seem to really matter.
I don't really think it is fixable; they would never change to, say, a 40-game season, so it is just going to continue the way it is.
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:22 am
by Split T
I don’t think the nba is that concerned with viewership. The things you guys mention are definitely impacting it, but they just signed a massive new media rights deal…they are obviously doing fine viewership wise. I think by far the biggest reason for a decline in viewership is the overall decline in cable television. Getting into the streaming world is going to help.
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:26 am
by ShelC
Does anyone really, truly care about NBA tv ratings?
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:37 am
by Split T
People love to point out they are dropping
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:46 am
by Cap
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:30 am
IMO the reason the NBA ratings are down isn't because of players taking rest nights, nor because of the proliferation of 3s, nor the lack of a new generational American-born star, or any of that nonsense. The lack of fan interest comes down to one single thing, one crucial flaw:
The games don't matter.
With an 82-game season, each individual game carries very little weight, so there's no real point in watching. It's just like baseball in that way; they have 162 games or whatever they have, so each one means jack squat. Football by contrast, each week the game means a heck of a lot, it's appointment viewing. It's not inherent in the sport; college basketball has around 30 games a year and those seem to really matter.
I don't really think it is fixable; they would never change to, say, a 40-game season, so it is just going to continue the way it is.
It has been an 82 game season since long before they started getting on national TV in the first place. That’s not the reason ratings are dropping.
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 10:25 am
by AmareIsGod
Cap wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:46 am
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:30 am
IMO the reason the NBA ratings are down isn't because of players taking rest nights, nor because of the proliferation of 3s, nor the lack of a new generational American-born star, or any of that nonsense. The lack of fan interest comes down to one single thing, one crucial flaw:
The games don't matter.
With an 82-game season, each individual game carries very little weight, so there's no real point in watching. It's just like baseball in that way; they have 162 games or whatever they have, so each one means jack squat. Football by contrast, each week the game means a heck of a lot, it's appointment viewing. It's not inherent in the sport; college basketball has around 30 games a year and those seem to really matter.
I don't really think it is fixable; they would never change to, say, a 40-game season, so it is just going to continue the way it is.
It has been an 82 game season since long before they started getting on national TV in the first place. That’s not the reason ratings are dropping.
What are your thoughts on why ratings are dropping?
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:02 am
by Kryptonic
AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 10:25 am
Cap wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:46 am
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:30 am
IMO the reason the NBA ratings are down isn't because of players taking rest nights, nor because of the proliferation of 3s, nor the lack of a new generational American-born star, or any of that nonsense. The lack of fan interest comes down to one single thing, one crucial flaw:
The games don't matter.
With an 82-game season, each individual game carries very little weight, so there's no real point in watching. It's just like baseball in that way; they have 162 games or whatever they have, so each one means jack squat. Football by contrast, each week the game means a heck of a lot, it's appointment viewing. It's not inherent in the sport; college basketball has around 30 games a year and those seem to really matter.
I don't really think it is fixable; they would never change to, say, a 40-game season, so it is just going to continue the way it is.
It has been an 82 game season since long before they started getting on national TV in the first place. That’s not the reason ratings are dropping.
What are your thoughts on why ratings are dropping?
For me…. Load management IS one of the main reasons I don’t watch consistently. If my team isn’t going to give 100% night in and night out, why should I? Same goes for tickets…. I’m pretty lucky and usually get free tickets from my brother in law but am definitely looking at the game schedule if I’m buying tickets. I’ll never buy any back to back games.
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:31 am
by Wally_West
lol
Suns not a good fit fuck outta here.
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:35 am
by Mori Chu
He means the Suns trade pieces (Beal) aren't a good fit for what Miami wants. Not that Butler would be a bad fit here.
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:51 am
by JeremyG
Yeah, he explained it in a reply:
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:56 am
by Superbone
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:35 am
He means the Suns trade pieces (Beal) aren't a good fit for what Miami wants. Not that Butler would be a bad fit here.
I didn't read it that way nor does he say that.
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:57 am
by Superbone
JeremyG wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:51 am
Yeah, he explained it in a reply:
Never mind then!
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:05 pm
by TOO
It's kinda hilarious that the entire league is less interested in Beal than we are. Sad.
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:07 pm
by Superbone
TOO wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:05 pm
It's kinda hilarious that the entire league is less interested in Beal than we are. Sad.
Yeah, really hilarious. So funny. Ha ha.
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:09 pm
by TOO
Superbone wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:07 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:05 pm
It's kinda hilarious that the entire league is less interested in Beal than we are. Sad.
Yeah, really hilarious. So funny. Ha ha.
Go for a walk boner. It'll be fine.
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:39 pm
by AmareIsGod
TOO wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:05 pm
It's kinda hilarious that the entire league is less interested in Beal than we are. Sad.
Such an absolutely maddening and moronic trade we made to get Beal. Ugh.
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:50 pm
by Superbone
AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:39 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:05 pm
It's kinda hilarious that the entire league is less interested in Beal than we are. Sad.
Such an absolutely maddening and moronic trade we made to get Beal. Ugh.
Didn't we get rid of Shamet as part of this?
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:50 pm
by Superbone
TOO wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:09 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:07 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:05 pm
It's kinda hilarious that the entire league is less interested in Beal than we are. Sad.
Yeah, really hilarious. So funny. Ha ha.
Go for a walk boner. It'll be fine.
I do need to get more daily steps in. Thanks for the reminder.