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James sits back and says, "I will not be pressured. Patience...."specialsauce wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:47 amSigh. We just stand pat and watch every other team aggressively improve their roster
Exactly. They have been pretty vocal about doing what they can for their players.The Bobster wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:53 amWho knows? They may have been doing Conley a favor by trying to place him on a contender. It seems like the perfect fit for him.
They gave up garbage. Salary ballast, the 21st pick in last years draft, the 23rd pick in this bad draft and a protected future first.
Because they got rid of Conley's 67M/2 years and now are only on the hook for a total of 12 million. Utah saved them 55M in just two years, and gave them two picks.Shabazz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:51 amThey gave up garbage. Salary ballast, the 21st pick in last years draft, the 23rd pick in this bad draft and a protected future first.
I wouldn't have had a problem giving up Warren/Jackson, Tyler, Okobo/Melton, the Milwaukee pick and the same protections on future picks. How is that not a better offer?
And there's no reason Conley couldn't play for us for 5 more seasons. He still playing at an incredibly high level. Once his mega-contract is done, you resign him to a more reasonable one.
The more I sit with this the more upset I am that we didn't find a way to get him. I would give up 2 picks for him if they were as protected as what Utah sent. But I also don't think we had anywhere near the savings they got. I keep looking at our contracts and if they wanted to clear every last bit of Conley's salary by the end of this coming season, and clear as much cap space as possible, what could we have offered?Shabazz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:51 amThey gave up garbage. Salary ballast, the 21st pick in last years draft, the 23rd pick in this bad draft and a protected future first.
I wouldn't have had a problem giving up Warren/Jackson, Tyler, Okobo/Melton, the Milwaukee pick and the same protections on future picks. How is that not a better offer?
And there's no reason Conley couldn't play for us for 5 more seasons. He still playing at an incredibly high level. Once his mega-contract is done, you resign him to a more reasonable one.
The sixth pick.Indy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:16 pmThe more I sit with this the more upset I am that we didn't find a way to get him. I would give up 2 picks for him if they were as protected as what Utah sent. But I also don't think we had anywhere near the savings they got. I keep looking at our contracts and if they wanted to clear every last bit of Conley's salary by the end of this coming season, and clear as much cap space as possible, what could we have offered?Shabazz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:51 amThey gave up garbage. Salary ballast, the 21st pick in last years draft, the 23rd pick in this bad draft and a protected future first.
I wouldn't have had a problem giving up Warren/Jackson, Tyler, Okobo/Melton, the Milwaukee pick and the same protections on future picks. How is that not a better offer?
And there's no reason Conley couldn't play for us for 5 more seasons. He still playing at an incredibly high level. Once his mega-contract is done, you resign him to a more reasonable one.
I am not sure they see someone there at 6 that they like as much as the cash savings to go after FAs. And Conley only has 2 years on his contract.specialsauce wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:22 pmThe sixth pick.Indy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:16 pmThe more I sit with this the more upset I am that we didn't find a way to get him. I would give up 2 picks for him if they were as protected as what Utah sent. But I also don't think we had anywhere near the savings they got. I keep looking at our contracts and if they wanted to clear every last bit of Conley's salary by the end of this coming season, and clear as much cap space as possible, what could we have offered?Shabazz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:51 amThey gave up garbage. Salary ballast, the 21st pick in last years draft, the 23rd pick in this bad draft and a protected future first.
I wouldn't have had a problem giving up Warren/Jackson, Tyler, Okobo/Melton, the Milwaukee pick and the same protections on future picks. How is that not a better offer?
And there's no reason Conley couldn't play for us for 5 more seasons. He still playing at an incredibly high level. Once his mega-contract is done, you resign him to a more reasonable one.
We can’t offer salary relief as much, but we could certainly get close and have given a better pick.
The sixth pick is well worth Mike Conley for 3-4 years.
If we offered Tyler (expiring), Jackson (they decline his option) and Melton, they would have no salary beyond next season. Add the Milwaukee pick and next year's protected first and Memphis clears $34M for '20-21, gains 2 draft picks and gets a look at 2 young players that both fit the Grit-n-Grind model. Memphis could probably also re-route Jackson to a 3rd team for draft considerations if the space was more important to them.specialsauce wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:22 pmThe sixth pick.Indy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:16 pmThe more I sit with this the more upset I am that we didn't find a way to get him. I would give up 2 picks for him if they were as protected as what Utah sent. But I also don't think we had anywhere near the savings they got. I keep looking at our contracts and if they wanted to clear every last bit of Conley's salary by the end of this coming season, and clear as much cap space as possible, what could we have offered?Shabazz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:51 amThey gave up garbage. Salary ballast, the 21st pick in last years draft, the 23rd pick in this bad draft and a protected future first.
I wouldn't have had a problem giving up Warren/Jackson, Tyler, Okobo/Melton, the Milwaukee pick and the same protections on future picks. How is that not a better offer?
And there's no reason Conley couldn't play for us for 5 more seasons. He still playing at an incredibly high level. Once his mega-contract is done, you resign him to a more reasonable one.
We can’t offer salary relief as much, but we could certainly get close and have given a better pick.
The sixth pick is well worth Mike Conley for 3-4 years.