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Re: Who to pick at 6
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:49 pm
by Mori Chu
Superbone wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:50 pm
I’m just disappointed that Glen Rice is no longer in the league. I would have liked to see White on Rice.
I love it. We should trade for every player with a color for a name. Start with Draymond Green!
Re: Who to pick at 6
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:59 am
by Nodack
Indy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:33 pm
Nodack wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:11 pm
I haven’t spent any time on who to pick. Seems like it would be wasted time. It is a little disappointing this year. Last year we finished last and got the #1 pick. This year we finish last and get the #6 pick. Seems like a worst case scenario. The poll here is split between three guys and 26% think the Suns are idiots if they draft anybody. That tells me roughly 75% of Suns fans are guaranteed to hate the results of the draft no matter what happens. Sounds like a can’t win scenario to me at least for the next several months at least.
I think the poll is what you want them to do most, not what you will only be happy about and hate any other result.
I suppose. Time will tell.
And spending time scouting players to see who you like best isn't any more time wasted than thinking about who might sit on the iron throne before the final episode.
To each his own. I find GOT entertaining. 62 pages of speculation on one pick isn’t entertaining to me. Then again I don’t really watch college B-Ball and don’t keep up with any of these guys until they hit the nba for the most part. I listen to weird music that most people would find annoying. We all have our thing.
Re: Who to pick at 6
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:46 am
by Indy
Nodack wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:59 am
Indy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:33 pm
Nodack wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:11 pm
I haven’t spent any time on who to pick. Seems like it would be wasted time. It is a little disappointing this year. Last year we finished last and got the #1 pick. This year we finish last and get the #6 pick. Seems like a worst case scenario. The poll here is split between three guys and 26% think the Suns are idiots if they draft anybody. That tells me roughly 75% of Suns fans are guaranteed to hate the results of the draft no matter what happens. Sounds like a can’t win scenario to me at least for the next several months at least.
I think the poll is what you want them to do most, not what you will only be happy about and hate any other result.
I suppose. Time will tell.
And spending time scouting players to see who you like best isn't any more time wasted than thinking about who might sit on the iron throne before the final episode.
To each his own. I find GOT entertaining. 62 pages of speculation on one pick isn’t entertaining to me. Then again I don’t really watch college B-Ball and don’t keep up with any of these guys until they hit the nba for the most part. I listen to weird music that most people would find annoying.
We all have our thing.
So true. good point
Re: Who to pick at 6
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:05 am
by Cap
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:49 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:50 pm
I’m just disappointed that Glen Rice is no longer in the league. I would have liked to see White on Rice.
I love it. We should trade for every player with a color for a name. Start with Draymond Green!
Continue with Jaylen Brown and Derrick Rose?
Re: Who to pick at 6
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:07 am
by O_Gardino
Cap wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:05 am
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:49 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:50 pm
I’m just disappointed that Glen Rice is no longer in the league. I would have liked to see White on Rice.
I love it. We should trade for every player with a color for a name. Start with Draymond Green!
Continue with Jaylen Brown and Derrick Rose?
Kris Dunn
Re: Who to pick at 6
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:20 am
by ShelC
Doubt they're seriously considering anyone other than Barrett, provided he's there. They worked out Garland yesterday and White today but probably just doing their HW and meeting with guys/planting seeds should they become available later.
Re: Who to pick at 6
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:52 am
by Split T
So who do we think the suns will take? Board is pretty split with about 25% each wanting (Culver, Clarke, Garland, or a trade)
I honestly have no idea what we’re going to do, but if I had to guess, I feel like we end up with Coby White
Re: Who to pick at 6
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:57 am
by Split T
My final board as it relates to suns:
1. Zion
2. Ja
3. Garland
4. Culver
5. RJ
6. Clarke
7. Hunter
8. White
9. Washington
10. NAW
Others I like:
Cam Johnson, Grant Williams, Darius Bazley, Zylan Cheatham, Chuma Okeke, Dylan Windler, Sekou Doumboya
Re: Who to pick at 6
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:01 am
by Indy
Split T wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:52 am
So who do we think the suns will take? Board is pretty split with about 25% each wanting (Culver, Clarke, Garland, or a trade)
I honestly have no idea what we’re going to do, but if I had to guess, I feel like we end up with Coby White
If we assume we are staying put and drafting at #6, it still seems to be so dependent on free agency. If we already know we are going to make a max offer to D'lo, or already have a different PG lined up, it might be very different.
Without knowing anything, and saying we have to pick at 6, here is my preference:
Assuming just Zion and Ja are gone--because it is a crap shoot from there--
1) Culver
2) Clarke
3) Hunter
4) White
Re: Who to pick at 6
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:18 am
by In2ition
We know almost for sure that the top 4 picks are going to be:
1. Zion
2. Ja
3. RJ
4. Garland
The feeling I have is that the Suns board of who they want that is left is the following:
5. White
6. Culver
7. Hunter
8. Clarke
Re: Who to pick at 6
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:19 am
by ShelC
I'm not high on Culver at all.
Re: Who to pick at 6
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:22 am
by Split T
In2ition wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:18 am
We know almost for sure that the top 4 picks are going to be:
1. Zion
2. Ja
3. RJ
4. Garland
The feeling I have is that the Suns board of who they want that is left is the following:
5. White
6. Culver
7. Hunter
8. Clarke
I’d guess Garland probably goes 4, but if NO can’t find a deal they like, I don’t see them taking him. So I haven’t ruled him out as a possibility yet.
I’d guess Bulls end up trading up for him though.
Re: Who to pick at 6
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:23 am
by Split T
ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:19 am
I'm not high on Culver at all.
I’m worried about his shot a bit...he could just end up Evan Turner, but he’s got everything else. Can handle, run an offense, makes the right pass, rebounds, defends.
Re: Who to pick at 6
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:26 am
by ShelC
I don't think his handles are that great and he plays a little too upright. Not a fluid athlete or natural ballhandler. And his form is OK but his left hand just goes wild at the end of his release.
Re: Who to pick at 6
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:35 am
by Ring_Wanted
Split T wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:57 am
My final board as it relates to suns:
1. Zion
2. Ja
3. Garland
4. Culver
5. RJ
6. Clarke
7. Hunter
8. White
9. Washington
10. NAW
Others I like:
Cam Johnson, Grant Williams, Darius Bazley, Zylan Cheatham, Chuma Okeke, Dylan Windler, Sekou Doumboya
At #32 I'd take Cam if he falls but I doubt it. Also like Windler. Clarke has my attention at #6, and I'd love to trade down for him. If I felt like taking a big gamble, I'd go with Bol. The PGs supposedly available look so meh to me. Overall I've never been this disinterested in a draft since 2012.
Re: Who to pick at 6
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:37 am
by In2ition
Split T wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:23 am
ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:19 am
I'm not high on Culver at all.
I’m worried about his shot a bit...he could just end up Evan Turner, but he’s got everything else. Can handle, run an offense, makes the right pass, rebounds, defends.
I see the comp of Turner on offense and I worry about his shot as well, but that's where it ends. I think Culver is a better passer, rebounder and far better defender than Turner.
He is a very very good athlete, but it isn't always functional. Like he has it, but doesn't show it ever. He's like Ayton in that aspect or even Diaw. You could never tell he was this great athlete.
Re: Who to pick at 6
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:44 am
by Split T
In2ition wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:37 am
Split T wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:23 am
ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:19 am
I'm not high on Culver at all.
I’m worried about his shot a bit...he could just end up Evan Turner, but he’s got everything else. Can handle, run an offense, makes the right pass, rebounds, defends.
I see the comp of Turner on offense and I worry about his shot as well, but that's where it ends. I think Culver is a better passer, rebounder and far better defender than Turner.
He is a very very good athlete, but it isn't always functional. Like he has it, but doesn't show it ever. He's like Ayton in that aspect or even Diaw. You could never tell he was this great athlete.
Turner was a pretty good rebounder/passer. In fact their per40 splits from their sophomore years look awfully similar:
22.8/7.9/4.6/1.8
19.0/7.8/4.4/1.9
Culver is on top
Turner as a junior was 22.8/10.3/6.7/1.9
Re: Who to pick at 6
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:20 am
by In2ition
Split T wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:44 am
In2ition wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:37 am
Split T wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:23 am
ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:19 am
I'm not high on Culver at all.
I’m worried about his shot a bit...he could just end up Evan Turner, but he’s got everything else. Can handle, run an offense, makes the right pass, rebounds, defends.
I see the comp of Turner on offense and I worry about his shot as well, but that's where it ends. I think Culver is a better passer, rebounder and far better defender than Turner.
He is a very very good athlete, but it isn't always functional. Like he has it, but doesn't show it ever. He's like Ayton in that aspect or even Diaw. You could never tell he was this great athlete.
Turner was a pretty good rebounder/passer. In fact their per40 splits from their sophomore years look awfully similar:
22.8/7.9/4.6/1.8
19.0/7.8/4.4/1.9
Culver is on top
Turner as a junior was 22.8/10.3/6.7/1.9
You're right, thanks.
Re: Who to pick at 6
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:27 am
by djy2j
Not at 6 obviously but if he’s there at 30. Someone is going to steal this kid. His scoring instincts and ability doesn’t come along often. Below is just what he did in the tournament:
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Re: Who to pick at 6
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:50 am
by Mori Chu
The most "Suns" thing to do would be to draft a PG like White, then also max out Russell, then also sign a veteran backup PG, and also keep one of Melton or Okobo on the roster.