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It was rhetorical. Lol.Indy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:42 amPart of it is the shitty teams in the league already used their cap space, and another reason is that only the true alphas/difference makers at the center position are getting maxes. Also, there are a ton of centers that are at the 20M or less level that can give you similar production as a #3 or #4.
I really want TJ McConnell back in the deal.
It may be a character thing. He has also said the same thing about John Collins, which, again, is probably a character thing. I really like the talent that John Collins has, but he has $100 million owed to him, a PED suspension, and the Hawks have been advertising for awhile that he has been available and they still don't have any takers. So when I see posters talk about trading for him, I'm not sure that is a great idea.Wally_West wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:20 amGambo keeps insisting we don’t want Turner tho, which seems weird. If it’s Turner and a 1st and maybe a couple second round picks.
I like Hield too, but he was upset in Sacramento about coming off of the bench. Do we want that here?
I meant to type Mikal/Cam in that second one. If you had to choose between keeping Mikal or OG (and we have Cam either way) which do you do?Split T wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:09 amI’d definitely swing the KD trade still and if my choice is keeping Cam or OG, I keep OG. He’s the better player and defense at that point is gonna be more important.Indy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:52 amSo if we can get OG and filler/picks for him AND you can then deal with Brooklyn for either Mikal/OG/picks/filler or Mikal/Cam/picks/filler, which one do you do?
Mikal is Mikal. DPOY runner up.
OG can do things with the ball nobody else outside of CP3/Book can do. But you are getting back Durant...
Gotcha, I’d keep Mikal. I do think OG gives us a better option as a small ball 5, but they’re close enough as players that it’d be no question I’d keep the sentimental pick and keep Mikal. But chemistry and continuity would favor Mikal too.Indy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:15 amI meant to type Mikal/Cam in that second one. If you had to choose between keeping Mikal or OG (and we have Cam either way) which do you do?Split T wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:09 amI’d definitely swing the KD trade still and if my choice is keeping Cam or OG, I keep OG. He’s the better player and defense at that point is gonna be more important.Indy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:52 amSo if we can get OG and filler/picks for him AND you can then deal with Brooklyn for either Mikal/OG/picks/filler or Mikal/Cam/picks/filler, which one do you do?
Mikal is Mikal. DPOY runner up.
OG can do things with the ball nobody else outside of CP3/Book can do. But you are getting back Durant...
Yes they do if they want to keep him.Split T wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:05 amIndy is the one team that doesn’t have a ton of motivation to give us much. They don’t need our help to sign him. And Turner and a future 1st isn’t horrendous. Turner is still a good quality starting center.
Are you trying to jinx us? I'm not comfortable assuming we're getting KD.Wally_West wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:20 amGambo keeps insisting we don’t want Turner tho, which seems weird. If it’s Turner and a 1st and maybe a couple second round picks. I’d probably take it, especially since we can send those to the Nets in hopes of keeping Mikal.Split T wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:05 amIndy is the one team that doesn’t have a ton of motivation to give us much. They don’t need our help to sign him. And Turner and a future 1st isn’t horrendous. Turner is still a good quality starting center.
CP-Book-Mikal-KD-Turner is a great starting lineup.
Sure, that’s why we still have some leverage, but a team like Toronto can’t even sign him to an offer sheet. With Indy, they’d be signing him as a free agent and giving us a little something to not match the offer. With a team like Toronto, your can’t even look at it like a free agent signing at all. It’s 100% a trade at that point.Superbone wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:04 pmYes they do if they want to keep him.Split T wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:05 amIndy is the one team that doesn’t have a ton of motivation to give us much. They don’t need our help to sign him. And Turner and a future 1st isn’t horrendous. Turner is still a good quality starting center.
No interest in keeping him?INFORMER wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:27 amI wish Jones and company would just move on and focus on executing a solid sign and trade Ayton deal.Mori Chu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:25 amI don't see exactly what assets we plan to give Brooklyn for KD at this point. They don't want Ayton (or so they are rumored to be saying). We don't want to give them Mikal. Doesn't that just about kill any deal? Why would they trade KD for, what, Cam Johnson and Jae Crowder? It seems like the only way to make things work would be to find a 3rd team with an asset Brooklyn wants. The Jazz scenario where they sent Mitchell to BKN and we send Ayton to Utah makes some sense to me. But does Utah want that? Does that make their team better? Does it set them up to tank? Isn't the top draft prospect a center, redundant with Ayton? Why would Utah want to help a conference rival (Phoenix) become a superteam?
I'm kind of getting the sense that this deal is dying on the vine. My guess is that this unblocks by KD becoming willing to go to other teams, like maybe Miami or Toronto. They have better assets to package into a trade that BKN might actually want to accept.
Typically gets two hours of sleep?! Are you f'n kidding me? No wonder he's so inconsistent!Ayton typically wakes up around 6 a.m. after only getting about two hours of sleep.
I wish he had that goal in the real life NBA. If he dedicated that kind of time to it, he could.But then, every day, he'll settle down for several hours -- at least four or five -- to play NBA 2K. This is how Ayton reached Legend status, an achievement that occurs by reaching Level 40 for four seasons in the game. Ayton believes he's the only NBA player to become a Legend.
now you see what some have been saying. and why would you be stupid enough to let your #1 FA this summer come out and say these things to a reporter if you are his agent? "I spend 5 hours a day training and get only 2 hours of sleep so I can DOMINAYT this ... video game. Now please pay me 177M in guaranteed money!"Superbone wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:40 pmI finally read some of the Ayton video gaming quotes and I have no words. (Well, I have a few.)
Typically gets two hours of sleep?! Are you f'n kidding me? No wonder he's so inconsistent!Ayton typically wakes up around 6 a.m. after only getting about two hours of sleep.
I wish he had that goal in the real life NBA. If he dedicated that kind of time to it, he could.But then, every day, he'll settle down for several hours -- at least four or five -- to play NBA 2K. This is how Ayton reached Legend status, an achievement that occurs by reaching Level 40 for four seasons in the game. Ayton believes he's the only NBA player to become a Legend.
Not really.Superbone wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:11 pmNo interest in keeping him?INFORMER wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:27 amI wish Jones and company would just move on and focus on executing a solid sign and trade Ayton deal.Mori Chu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:25 amI don't see exactly what assets we plan to give Brooklyn for KD at this point. They don't want Ayton (or so they are rumored to be saying). We don't want to give them Mikal. Doesn't that just about kill any deal? Why would they trade KD for, what, Cam Johnson and Jae Crowder? It seems like the only way to make things work would be to find a 3rd team with an asset Brooklyn wants. The Jazz scenario where they sent Mitchell to BKN and we send Ayton to Utah makes some sense to me. But does Utah want that? Does that make their team better? Does it set them up to tank? Isn't the top draft prospect a center, redundant with Ayton? Why would Utah want to help a conference rival (Phoenix) become a superteam?
I'm kind of getting the sense that this deal is dying on the vine. My guess is that this unblocks by KD becoming willing to go to other teams, like maybe Miami or Toronto. They have better assets to package into a trade that BKN might actually want to accept.
It would make me want to pay him. Imagine how dominant he'll be once he starts getting more than 2 hours of sleep.Indy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:54 pmnow you see what some have been saying. and why would you be stupid enough to let your #1 FA this summer come out and say these things to a reporter if you are his agent? "I spend 5 hours a day training and get only 2 hours of sleep so I can DOMINAYT this ... video game. Now please pay me 177M in guaranteed money!"Superbone wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:40 pmI finally read some of the Ayton video gaming quotes and I have no words. (Well, I have a few.)
Typically gets two hours of sleep?! Are you f'n kidding me? No wonder he's so inconsistent!Ayton typically wakes up around 6 a.m. after only getting about two hours of sleep.
I wish he had that goal in the real life NBA. If he dedicated that kind of time to it, he could.But then, every day, he'll settle down for several hours -- at least four or five -- to play NBA 2K. This is how Ayton reached Legend status, an achievement that occurs by reaching Level 40 for four seasons in the game. Ayton believes he's the only NBA player to become a Legend.
Yeah, usually once you reward someone for their behavior, they mature.JeremyG wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:02 pmIt would make me want to pay him. Imagine how dominant he'll be once he starts getting more than 2 hours of sleep.Indy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:54 pmnow you see what some have been saying. and why would you be stupid enough to let your #1 FA this summer come out and say these things to a reporter if you are his agent? "I spend 5 hours a day training and get only 2 hours of sleep so I can DOMINAYT this ... video game. Now please pay me 177M in guaranteed money!"Superbone wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:40 pmI finally read some of the Ayton video gaming quotes and I have no words. (Well, I have a few.)
Typically gets two hours of sleep?! Are you f'n kidding me? No wonder he's so inconsistent!Ayton typically wakes up around 6 a.m. after only getting about two hours of sleep.
I wish he had that goal in the real life NBA. If he dedicated that kind of time to it, he could.But then, every day, he'll settle down for several hours -- at least four or five -- to play NBA 2K. This is how Ayton reached Legend status, an achievement that occurs by reaching Level 40 for four seasons in the game. Ayton believes he's the only NBA player to become a Legend.
Seriously, though, he's 23 years old. I'm sure he'll mature and realize soon that he needs more sleep.
JeremyG wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:02 pmIt would make me want to pay him. Imagine how dominant he'll be once he starts getting more than 2 hours of sleep.Indy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:54 pmnow you see what some have been saying. and why would you be stupid enough to let your #1 FA this summer come out and say these things to a reporter if you are his agent? "I spend 5 hours a day training and get only 2 hours of sleep so I can DOMINAYT this ... video game. Now please pay me 177M in guaranteed money!"Superbone wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:40 pmI finally read some of the Ayton video gaming quotes and I have no words. (Well, I have a few.)
Typically gets two hours of sleep?! Are you f'n kidding me? No wonder he's so inconsistent!Ayton typically wakes up around 6 a.m. after only getting about two hours of sleep.
I wish he had that goal in the real life NBA. If he dedicated that kind of time to it, he could.But then, every day, he'll settle down for several hours -- at least four or five -- to play NBA 2K. This is how Ayton reached Legend status, an achievement that occurs by reaching Level 40 for four seasons in the game. Ayton believes he's the only NBA player to become a Legend.
Seriously, though, he's 23 years old. I'm sure he'll mature and realize soon that he needs more sleep.
I got a good laugh out of that one, Jeremy. Who peed in your Cheerios? Isn't that the definition of stupidity if you let your first #1 overall pick ever walk for nothing? That would answer the "Is Sarver cheap?" question without a doubt if it were to happen. Plus, Jeremy would have a field day.
