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Re: 2015 Trade Deadline

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:28 pm
by Sunsfan4life
BTW, Why does everyone think Reggie Jackson is so good? am I missing something? 12mil a yr he turned down. What?

Re: 2015 Trade Deadline

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:52 pm
by INFORMER
It's amazing what Presti was able to turn Jackson/Perkins into. Unbelievable. Final deal:

OKC receives: Enes Kanter, Kyle Singler, DJ Augustin, Steve Novak, and Detroit's 2019 2nd rounder
Detroit receives: Reggie Jackson
Utah receives: Kendrick Perkins, Grant Jarret, OKC protected 2017 1st rounder, Detroit's 2017 second round pick, and the draft rights to Tibor Pleiss.

Re: 2015 Trade Deadline

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:57 pm
by OE32
INFORMER wrote:It's amazing what Presti was able to turn Jackson/Perkins into. Unbelievable. Final deal:

OKC receives: Enes Kanter, Kyle Singler, DJ Augustin, Steve Novak, and Detroit's 2019 2nd rounder
Detroit receives: Reggie Jackson
Utah receives: Kendrick Perkins, Grant Jarret, OKC protected 2017 1st rounder, Detroit's 2017 second round pick, and the draft rights to Tibor Pleiss.
Definitely. Deal of the day. Utah got crushed.

Ibaka/McGary
Kanter/Adams

Awesome.

Re: 2015 Trade Deadline

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:20 am
by Mori Chu
Why did Utah even do that deal? I really don't get it from their side.

Re: 2015 Trade Deadline

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:45 am
by SDC
look at next season's schedule: any future playoff contending team in the west that has plenty of suns, sixers and laker games during late march and april will have the advantage.

the suns april sked last season was brutal.

Re: 2015 Trade Deadline

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:33 am
by Mori Chu
Come on. We are not the Sixers or Lakers.

Re: 2015 Trade Deadline

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:11 am
by INFORMER
Mori Chu wrote:Why did Utah even do that deal? I really don't get it from their side.
They had no plans to retain Kanter. So they shed Novak's contract and pick up some modest draft considerations.

Re: 2015 Trade Deadline

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:57 am
by cbesch5
Mori Chu wrote:Why did Utah even do that deal? I really don't get it from their side.
I am with you. I've been thinking about that since I heard the deal. They get a 2017 protected first basically. From OKC none the less so it will likely be a very low round pick. After saying they wanted 2 firsts and/or young star potential player for Kanter. I don't understand that deal from their perspective...at all.

Re: 2015 Trade Deadline

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:01 pm
by carey
cbesch5 wrote:
Mori Chu wrote:Why did Utah even do that deal? I really don't get it from their side.
I am with you. I've been thinking about that since I heard the deal. They get a 2017 protected first basically. From OKC none the less so it will likely be a very low round pick. After saying they wanted 2 firsts and/or young star potential player for Kanter. I don't understand that deal from their perspective...at all.
Yeah, I think you wait for the Summer & try and S&T him if you really don't want to pay him. A lot of guys were shipped out yesterday because their front office don't want to pay them. Kanter, Reggie Jackson, Brandon Knight, and MCW.

Re: 2015 Trade Deadline

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:02 pm
by INFORMER
How does MCW fall into that category?

Re: 2015 Trade Deadline

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:04 pm
by Sunsfan4life
I dunno if MCW was shipped because they don't want to pay him. He still has a few years left on that Rookie deal. The sixers just don't see him as part of there future at any contract.

Re: 2015 Trade Deadline

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:07 pm
by carey
Sunsfan4life wrote:I dunno if MCW was shipped because they don't want to pay him. He still has a few years left on that Rookie deal. The sixers just don't see him as part of there future at any contract.
Yeah pretty much this. He wasn't up for that contract just yet, but it was clear they weren't going to ever sign him long term. I'm not really sure why though. If you read that Pablo article on Hinkie you know that he has everything Hinkie looks for in a player. Long arms, tall, athletic, defensive potential, and can't shoot. Shooting supposedly is the one true offensive skill you can really improve on over time, so why the rush to move him?

Re: 2015 Trade Deadline

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:23 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
carey wrote:
Sunsfan4life wrote:I dunno if MCW was shipped because they don't want to pay him. He still has a few years left on that Rookie deal. The sixers just don't see him as part of there future at any contract.
Yeah pretty much this. He wasn't up for that contract just yet, but it was clear they weren't going to ever sign him long term. I'm not really sure why though. If you read that Pablo article on Hinkie you know that he has everything Hinkie looks for in a player. Long arms, tall, athletic, defensive potential, and can't shoot. Shooting supposedly is the one true offensive skill you can really improve on over time, so why the rush to move him?
Maybe something in the inside, not so basketball related, but along the line of "Sometimes, assets don't like to be treated like assets", wich is a big No-no in the current way Philly is doing business with it's own players.

Re: 2015 Trade Deadline

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:31 pm
by Mori Chu
I like the idea of MCW, love his length and athleticism and versatility, but he simply cannot shoot to save his life. His shooting is horrible. I mean, just look at this thing!

https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.c ... 1152&h=908

Re: 2015 Trade Deadline

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:33 pm
by INFORMER
Mori Chu wrote:I like the idea of MCW, love his length and athleticism and versatility, but he simply cannot shoot to save his life. His shooting is horrible. I mean, just look at this thing!

https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.c ... 1152&h=908
Jason Kidd.

Re: 2015 Trade Deadline

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:33 pm
by OE32
Mori Chu wrote:I like the idea of MCW, love his length and athleticism and versatility, but he simply cannot shoot to save his life. His shooting is horrible. I mean, just look at this thing!

https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.c ... 1152&h=908
dat corner doe...

Re: 2015 Trade Deadline

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:43 pm
by Split T
Why didn't utah just take Reggie Jackson? I guess he probably gets in the way of exum' development. He's better than a late first though.

Re: 2015 Trade Deadline

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:02 pm
by Sunsfan4life
Its not that Utah traded Kantar its that what they got in return suggest they woke up Thursday Morning and said "Oh crap, we gotta get something for this guy before he leaves"

Re: 2015 Trade Deadline

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:37 pm
by Kidd Karma
Sunsfan4life wrote:Its not that Utah traded Kantar its that what they got in return suggest they woke up Thursday Morning and said "Oh crap, we gotta get something for this guy before he leaves"
They were talking all Tuesday and Wednesday, how they needed a young player and draft picks to move Enes. Probably scared all the potential trade partners away.

Re: 2015 Trade Deadline

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:42 pm
by Kidd Karma
INFORMER wrote:
Mori Chu wrote:I like the idea of MCW, love his length and athleticism and versatility, but he simply cannot shoot to save his life. His shooting is horrible. I mean, just look at this thing!

https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.c ... 1152&h=908
Jason Kidd.
http://www.brewhoop.com/2015/2/19/80738 ... n-to-bucks