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Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:10 pm
by carey
I'm not sure I'd call Murray & Simmons meh or bleh.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:13 pm
by Cap
carey wrote:I'm not sure I'd call Murray & Simmons meh or bleh.
I'd call them unproven at this point, and have no problem saying of them, "Stay away, unless they change agents."
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:15 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Cap wrote:carey wrote:I'm not sure I'd call Murray & Simmons meh or bleh.
I'd call them unproven at this point, and have no problem saying of them, "Stay away, unless they change agents."
How much of Simmons have you watched? He's definitely proven to have All-Star level ability to me.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:25 pm
by Cap
Flagrant Fowl wrote:Cap wrote:carey wrote:I'm not sure I'd call Murray & Simmons meh or bleh.
I'd call them unproven at this point, and have no problem saying of them, "Stay away, unless they change agents."
How much of Simmons have you watched? He's definitely proven to have All-Star level ability to me.
To be honest, I've not seen a single NBA game he has played. But I don't care if he's Michael Jordan, Wilt Chamberlain, and Bill Russell rolled into one, as long as he's a Klutch klient I don't want anything to do with him.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:28 pm
by Danimal
I see a rumour for brogdon and Henson
I think there were a few Henson fans on here
He basically works as a chandler replacement of sorts
It seems like a ok return but in terms of team fit and balance I actually like it a bit
Now can we get that 2nd rounder we should have gotten in the ish Smith trade all those years ago !
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:35 pm
by Superbone
Danimal wrote:I see a rumour for brogdon and Henson
I think there were a few Henson fans on here
He basically works as a chandler replacement of sorts
It seems like a ok return but in terms of team fit and balance I actually like it a bit
I'd take it in a heartbeat.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:42 pm
by Split T
Henson's contract isn't great, but if we get Brogdon, I'll take it.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:46 pm
by carey
Idk. I'm with McDonough. No money past '19. Booker's extension kicks in then & we need to sign FAs.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:19 pm
by JCSunsfan
So. Would you do Bledsoe and Troy Daniels for Brogdon and Monroe? No picks. Monroe's deal is up next summer, so he is basically an expiring. He is not living up to his contract at all.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:04 pm
by carey
Yeah, I probably would.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:46 pm
by Shabazz
How about Bledsoe and Chandler for Brogdon, Monroe, Mirza?
MIL probably says no to that one.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:58 pm
by Cap
Wherever he ends up, he's probably going to demand that max extension and cause problems if he doesn't get it. So unless somebody actually wants to give him that extension, I expect interest to be limited.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:16 pm
by In2ition
Cap wrote:Wherever he ends up, he's probably going to demand that max extension and cause problems if he doesn't get it. So unless somebody actually wants to give him that extension, I expect interest to be limited.
This slightly reminds me of when Marion wanted the max extension before his time was up and got upset with Kerr.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:29 pm
by specialsauce
JCSunsfan wrote:So. Would you do Bledsoe and Troy Daniels for Brogdon and Monroe? No picks. Monroe's deal is up next summer, so he is basically an expiring. He is not living up to his contract at all.
How is this even a debate? I would do it in a heartbeat.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:34 pm
by Mori Chu
JCSunsfan wrote:So. Would you do Bledsoe and Troy Daniels for Brogdon and Monroe? No picks. Monroe's deal is up next summer, so he is basically an expiring. He is not living up to his contract at all.
Wish we could find a way to keep Daniels. He's a deadly 3-point shooter, and we need more of that. Can we throw in some other young player instead? Or throw in a future 2nd-rounder instead of Daniels?
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:59 pm
by 3rdside
specialsauce wrote:Let’s be real here for a second. You may not like how McD has alienated players (Dragic, Morris, Bled) but let’s not act like he hasn’t gotten surprisingly good returns on his trades of these players after everyone had said their trade values had been ruined. I have 100% confidence that McD will maximize the trade value. I don’t have confidence that he’ll then use the assets acquired to form a cohesive unit.
McD's major strength also seems to be signing guys to value contracts (there's 3 players in here and you can probably throw in Warren):
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/syndicat ... n.amp.html
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Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:01 am
by 3rdside
*article's been posted before but jic you missed it.
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Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:55 am
by Cap
3rdside wrote:specialsauce wrote:Let’s be real here for a second. You may not like how McD has alienated players (Dragic, Morris, Bled) but let’s not act like he hasn’t gotten surprisingly good returns on his trades of these players after everyone had said their trade values had been ruined. I have 100% confidence that McD will maximize the trade value. I don’t have confidence that he’ll then use the assets acquired to form a cohesive unit.
McD's major strength also seems to be signing guys to value contracts (there's 3 players in here and you can probably throw in Warren):
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/syndicat ... n.amp.html
And all 3 of them became toxic. Can he sign somebody to a value contract we don't end up needing to dump?
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:22 am
by specialsauce
Is there a scenario where you wouldn’t want to have dumped them? Just basketball wise, I’m glad we got/are getting rid of those 3
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:29 am
by Split T
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:JCSunsfan wrote:So. Would you do Bledsoe and Troy Daniels for Brogdon and Monroe? No picks. Monroe's deal is up next summer, so he is basically an expiring. He is not living up to his contract at all.
Wish we could find a way to keep Daniels. He's a deadly 3-point shooter, and we need more of that. Can we throw in some other young player instead? Or throw in a future 2nd-rounder instead of Daniels?
Brogdon is just as good a shooter. You can't have too much shooting, but adding Brogdon lessens the blow a bit and Milwaukee needs to replace Brogdon's shooting and would want Daniels over other options.