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Re: What TV shows are you guys watching?
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:19 am
by Dan H
Yup. When I first started S2, I was like, seriously, a bunch of hilljacks selling weed? WTF?
Ended up amazing though. And STILL having repercussions in S5!
The dialogue is my favorite part of the show, honestly.
Art: "First thing we're going to do is we're gonna acknowledge that this guy's awesome."
Rachel: "What?"
Art: "I mean, he shoots Theo Tonin, fakes his own death in a spectacular fashion, pushes a guy out of an airplane while he's flying it, parachutes into Harlan County with enough coke and cash to jump-start the economy of a small country, and then he has the balls to get a job in law enforcement, not once but two times! He spends a couple of days riding around with you [points at Raylan] while you're looking for him, and now he's run off with a hooker that's half his age. That's some bad-ass shit."
Raylan: "It's pretty bad-ass."
...
Art: "I'm gonna give you ten seconds to leave, and then I'm gonna shoot you."
Wynn: "FYI, that's kind of a thing with these marshals."
Re: What TV shows are you guys watching?
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:59 am
by carey
Omg. That's a giant spoiler & you know these dudes hate spoilers.
Re: What TV shows are you guys watching?
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:02 am
by Indy
I saw the length of the post and decided to skip it Dan. Glad to know it isn't bad guy of the week anymore.
Re: What TV shows are you guys watching?
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:30 pm
by Dan H
carey wrote:Omg. That's a giant spoiler & you know these dudes hate spoilers.
do we have spoiler tags? I didn't use the guy's name, LOL . . .
Re: What TV shows are you guys watching?
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:38 pm
by carey
Dan H wrote:carey wrote:Omg. That's a giant spoiler & you know these dudes hate spoilers.
do we have spoiler tags? I didn't use the guy's name, LOL . . .
Re: What TV shows are you guys watching?
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:18 pm
by Shabazz
This absolutely nails every issue I've had with The Strain:
http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospect ... stupidity/
Don't read if you don't watch the show. Here's the thing that bothers me the most:
Needless to say, The Strain is not a particularly smart show. Nor is it, I must say, a consistent one. Sometimes The Strain suggests that Manhattan, in the span of a week, has transformed into a dystopic failed state of roaming monsters, petty crime, and random explosions. Other times, the easygoing traffic on the Manhattan Bridge resembles a summer Sunday morning. I’ve seen New Yorkers more upset when the F train isn’t running than they are in Day 5 of a supernatural slaughterfest. Worse, The Strain doesn’t even pass basic geography: Three weeks ago, Zach Goodweather was able to use an old, battery-drained laptop (OK) to track his mother’s iPhone (fine), despite the Internet being down (sure). The live map he shared with his father clearly showed the phone in Brooklyn Heights. “She’s in Astoria!,” Eph Goodweather declared before running off to find her. That wouldn’t be a big deal if the Toronto-filmed show didn’t lead off nearly every scene with a nonsensically specific bumper. (118th Street; Harlem; etc.). Don’t tell me where you are if you can’t even manage to get there!
Yes, the show is fantasy, but come on. There was gravity on Tatooine, you know? On The Strain, it often feels like the rules are being made up as they go along. To wit: There is an entire city feeling the effects of a monstrous plague and yet the only ones interested in putting a stop to it are a senior citizen, an exterminator, two doctors, and (ugh) a hacker? (Did it occur to no one to maybe knock on the door of a fire station or police station?) The white worms are predatory and infectious, but no one bothers to wear masks or gloves. Vampires die in the sun except when they don’t. Vasiliy Fet’s goatee appears to change color from week to week. If The Strain doesn’t care enough to follow its own internal logic, why should we bother to try?
Re: What TV shows are you guys watching?
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:32 pm
by Dan H
Honestly, a lot of the faults come from the transition from book to screen. There was a lot more detail in the novel that I don't know how you'd be able to portray on TV.
One of the big twists in the book, for example, is that the vampires cannot, indeed, cross running water. So Fet attempts to bomb the subway line because vampires are hitching rides on top of the trains to get around the limitation. Despite this, the whole post-apocalyptic atmosphere doesn't come into play until the end of the 2nd book, the problem the heroes are running into is that things are mostly normal, not going bat crap crazy like on the show.
Another example,
the death of Nora's mom. In the books she doesn't die until, I believe, the beginning of the 3rd book. This sets up a lot of situations where Nora and her mom wait behind with Zach while the others fight. Which would make a heck of a lot more sense than giving a kid a sword and taking him on a raid. Yes, she's a pain in the ass character. But the heroes trying to keep her alive in the books is what shows that they are still human, even having to do horrible things to survive.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge defender, because the final two-thirds of the last book was probably one of the lamest and most disappointing conclusions I've ever read in a series. If they fix/change that they can only go up from there.
Re: What TV shows are you guys watching?
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:47 pm
by carey
Dan H wrote: Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge defender, because the final two-thirds of the last book was probably one of the lamest and most disappointing conclusions I've ever read in a series. If they fix/change that they can only go up from there.
Hmmm. I only read the first two and have put off the last one because of fears they'd fuck the landing up. Sounds like they did.
If you like vampire stuff may I recommend Justin Cronin's The Passage series? The best way I can describe it is a literary vampire novel (as in not pulp like Strain or True Blood or Twilight), but it's similar as far as a "plague" of vampirism. I'm really looking forward to the 3rd installment, but they are epic beasts (800 pages or so) so they don't get pumped out to quickly.
Re: What TV shows are you guys watching?
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:55 pm
by SDC
andy greenwald doesnt like the walking dead either.
Shabazz wrote:This absolutely nails every issue I've had with The Strain:
http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospect ... stupidity/
Don't read if you don't watch the show. Here's the thing that bothers me the most:
Needless to say, The Strain is not a particularly smart show. Nor is it, I must say, a consistent one. Sometimes The Strain suggests that Manhattan, in the span of a week, has transformed into a dystopic failed state of roaming monsters, petty crime, and random explosions. Other times, the easygoing traffic on the Manhattan Bridge resembles a summer Sunday morning. I’ve seen New Yorkers more upset when the F train isn’t running than they are in Day 5 of a supernatural slaughterfest. Worse, The Strain doesn’t even pass basic geography: Three weeks ago, Zach Goodweather was able to use an old, battery-drained laptop (OK) to track his mother’s iPhone (fine), despite the Internet being down (sure). The live map he shared with his father clearly showed the phone in Brooklyn Heights. “She’s in Astoria!,” Eph Goodweather declared before running off to find her. That wouldn’t be a big deal if the Toronto-filmed show didn’t lead off nearly every scene with a nonsensically specific bumper. (118th Street; Harlem; etc.). Don’t tell me where you are if you can’t even manage to get there!
Yes, the show is fantasy, but come on. There was gravity on Tatooine, you know? On The Strain, it often feels like the rules are being made up as they go along. To wit: There is an entire city feeling the effects of a monstrous plague and yet the only ones interested in putting a stop to it are a senior citizen, an exterminator, two doctors, and (ugh) a hacker? (Did it occur to no one to maybe knock on the door of a fire station or police station?) The white worms are predatory and infectious, but no one bothers to wear masks or gloves. Vampires die in the sun except when they don’t. Vasiliy Fet’s goatee appears to change color from week to week. If The Strain doesn’t care enough to follow its own internal logic, why should we bother to try?
Re: What TV shows are you guys watching?
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:42 am
by Dan H
carey wrote:Dan H wrote: Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge defender, because the final two-thirds of the last book was probably one of the lamest and most disappointing conclusions I've ever read in a series. If they fix/change that they can only go up from there.
Hmmm. I only read the first two and have put off the last one because of fears they'd fuck the landing up. Sounds like they did.
If you like vampire stuff may I recommend Justin Cronin's The Passage series? The best way I can describe it is a literary vampire novel (as in not pulp like Strain or True Blood or Twilight), but it's similar as far as a "plague" of vampirism. I'm really looking forward to the 3rd installment, but they are epic beasts (800 pages or so) so they don't get pumped out to quickly.
I read the first one and couldn't get into the second one, don't know if it had been too long between books or what. I'm going to revisit it when the final one comes out. That's what I did with Game of Thrones and enjoyed it far more than having to wait.
Re: What TV shows are you guys watching?
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:44 pm
by Shabazz
SDC wrote:andy greenwald doesnt like the walking dead either.
Shabazz wrote:This absolutely nails every issue I've had with The Strain:
http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospect ... stupidity/
Don't read if you don't watch the show. Here's the thing that bothers me the most:
Needless to say, The Strain is not a particularly smart show. Nor is it, I must say, a consistent one. Sometimes The Strain suggests that Manhattan, in the span of a week, has transformed into a dystopic failed state of roaming monsters, petty crime, and random explosions. Other times, the easygoing traffic on the Manhattan Bridge resembles a summer Sunday morning. I’ve seen New Yorkers more upset when the F train isn’t running than they are in Day 5 of a supernatural slaughterfest. Worse, The Strain doesn’t even pass basic geography: Three weeks ago, Zach Goodweather was able to use an old, battery-drained laptop (OK) to track his mother’s iPhone (fine), despite the Internet being down (sure). The live map he shared with his father clearly showed the phone in Brooklyn Heights. “She’s in Astoria!,” Eph Goodweather declared before running off to find her. That wouldn’t be a big deal if the Toronto-filmed show didn’t lead off nearly every scene with a nonsensically specific bumper. (118th Street; Harlem; etc.). Don’t tell me where you are if you can’t even manage to get there!
Yes, the show is fantasy, but come on. There was gravity on Tatooine, you know? On The Strain, it often feels like the rules are being made up as they go along. To wit: There is an entire city feeling the effects of a monstrous plague and yet the only ones interested in putting a stop to it are a senior citizen, an exterminator, two doctors, and (ugh) a hacker? (Did it occur to no one to maybe knock on the door of a fire station or police station?) The white worms are predatory and infectious, but no one bothers to wear masks or gloves. Vampires die in the sun except when they don’t. Vasiliy Fet’s goatee appears to change color from week to week. If The Strain doesn’t care enough to follow its own internal logic, why should we bother to try?
I usually agree with his criticisms of that show too. Namely, the main character Sucks.
But RE The Strain, you don't mind the stuff I put in the Spoiler Tag? It drove me nuts.
Re: What TV shows are you guys watching?
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:53 am
by Wally_West
Very much enjoyed the Flash. The show looks very promising.
Re: What TV shows are you guys watching?
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:12 pm
by Mori Chu
My gf is making me watch "Couples Therapy." It is horrendous. I hate reality tv. Give me a well written drama any day.
Re: What TV shows are you guys watching?
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:29 pm
by SDC
the girls who plays selina kyle in gotham looks like a young michelle pfieffer.
Re: What TV shows are you guys watching?
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:28 am
by Dan H
SDC wrote:the girls who plays selina kyle in gotham looks like a young michelle pfieffer.
On the bright side, at least she doesnt give me the "quick, check IMDB before ogling!" feeling I get when watching "Jessie" on the Disney channel with my kids. :p
* Edit - because she's obviously 14. That came off creepier than I intended.
Re: What TV shows are you guys watching?
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:03 pm
by Charlie Smithy!
Daniel!
Re: What TV shows are you guys watching?
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:02 pm
by Dan H
Have you SEEN Jessie?
She's 21, it's totes okay.
Re: What TV shows are you guys watching?
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:34 pm
by SDC
watching: mulaney, gracepoint, gotham, AHS4
given up: z-nation, scorpion
Re: What TV shows are you guys watching?
Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:53 am
by iLLmatic
SDC wrote:the girls who plays selina kyle in gotham looks like a young michelle pfieffer.
I said the same exact thing to my wife last night lol.
Re: What TV shows are you guys watching?
Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:56 am
by iLLmatic
Wally_West wrote:Very much enjoyed the Flash. The show looks very promising.
I watched the pilot last night and really enjoyed it. I definitely enjoyed it more than Gotham.