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Re: Suns Coach 2018-19
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:11 pm
by Ring_Wanted
Kidd Karma wrote:Flagrant Fowl wrote:Vogel was in Orlando before their current GM, John Hammond, was hired.
Hammond did pretty well in Milwaukee and Vogel has not done well since leaving Indiana. It could be a bad fit situation for one or the other in Orlando, or they could both suck. I'm personally not too keen on finding out if it was Vogel. But he's available and there are worse options on the table.
Yea, the previous GM Hennigan, just couldn't commit. His moves was just heading shaking. Center....Vucevic 12 million per....he goes out and signs Biyombo at 17 per. These are 2 bigs that cannot coexist on the floor, it's one or the other....great you devote 29 million to one position. Decide you're going all in and move Sabonis and Oladipo for Ibaka? Great....only problem, you drafted Aaron Gordon whom you penciled in as a Blake Griffin clone as the PF, so now you have Gordon and Ibaka at the PF position, no Gordon as a small forward doesn't work. So again you're wasting draft capital and salary cap space over compensating one position....not to mention you traded away Oladipo, last I check he can spread the floor and create offense. The guard you decide to keep Elfrid Payton, can't shoot. So that's 2 players, Gordon and Payton that can't shoot, but are starters. Just horrible roster management. No way Vogel succeeds with that kind of personnel. I think Vogel is a quality coach, his Indy days should earn him a pass in Orlando.
Agreed. Not sure he'd be the right direction for the team, though, but to me he still has credit from what he did with the Pacers. Btw, George ended in very good terms with him.
Re: Suns Coach 2018-19
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:31 pm
by ShelC
So help me god if we hire Mark Jackson...
Re: Suns Coach 2018-19
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:36 pm
by specialsauce
He’s a religious nut, but was he a bad coach?
Re: Suns Coach 2018-19
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:47 pm
by JCSunsfan
specialsauce wrote:He’s a religious nut, but was he a bad coach?
I have no problem with the religion part, its the coaching that I take issue with. He is EW part 2. Look at the GS turnaround as soon as he left (with virtually the same roster).
Re: Suns Coach 2018-19
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:56 pm
by O_Gardino
After Stephs first MVP season, he said on air that Steph really isn't that good.
Re: Suns Coach 2018-19
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:57 pm
by ShelC
He had clashes with management, I think Scalabrine hated him. Bogut hated him. The religious/fatherly stuff needs to be left at the door. These are grown men who don't want to be preached to. They want to win, keep it to basketball. If they want to be religious, they can do it on their own or within their own group pre/post game. A few articles below.
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/12/6/ ... -joe-lacob
http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2016/02 ... iring-him/
I've said it before, I think Jackson would be best suited in a college environment.
Re: Suns Coach 2018-19
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:08 pm
by specialsauce
Lollllll I missed the part where the entire organization disliked him
Re: Suns Coach 2018-19
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:41 pm
by EDC
He turned the whole team against one of his players that was injured. He lied and said the guy was happy the team was losing without him. He did some really underhanded shit.
Re: Suns Coach 2018-19
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:54 pm
by specialsauce
Jason Kidd was on with Gambo and Burns right now basically an interview for the Suns job. Blah.
Re: Suns Coach 2018-19
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:02 pm
by LazarusLong
specialsauce wrote:Jason Kidd was on with Gambo and Burns right now basically an interview for the Suns job. Blah.
That was my take, also.
B&G did not bring up the fact that JK left the Suns under less than stellar circumstances.
Re: Suns Coach 2018-19
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:19 pm
by Superbone
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:WIll everyone get free french fries if we score 100 pts?
LOL. Hoo boy.
Re: Suns Coach 2018-19
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:19 pm
by Superbone
Shabazz wrote:If Budenholzer or Clifford get fired, they'd be strong candidates. I could easily see us hiring AZ-native Bud.
In a heartbeat.
Re: Suns Coach 2018-19
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:22 pm
by Superbone
Wormwood wrote:It doesn't matter who the coach is.
We're not winning many games with half our salary cap in Chandler / Dudley / Knight. None of these three players contribute much, and Knight, the highest paid of the lot, is perhaps the worst PG in the NBA given his appalling defense and his penchant for pounding the ball for 23 seconds into the hardwood and then launching desperation shots. As a result, both his defensive and offensive RPM are awful.
We can't win with so much money tied up in players who are worse than replacement level.
He's not going to play if he does that.
Re: Suns Coach 2018-19
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:25 pm
by Superbone
specialsauce wrote:Jason Kidd was on with Gambo and Burns right now basically an interview for the Suns job. Blah.
What did he say about this "one horse town"?
Re: Suns Coach 2018-19
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:40 pm
by Superbone
Sorry Kidd but that's why you don't burn bridges when you move on.
Re: Suns Coach 2018-19
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:42 pm
by Superbone
Re: Suns Coach 2018-19
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:44 pm
by Cap
Superbone wrote:Expect our next head coach to be bald:
Yes! I’m in the running!
Re: Suns Coach 2018-19
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:45 pm
by specialsauce
LazarusLong wrote:specialsauce wrote:Jason Kidd was on with Gambo and Burns right now basically an interview for the Suns job. Blah.
That was my take, also.
B&G did not bring up the fact that JK left the Suns under less than stellar circumstances.
They were too busy wiping the drool off themselves
Re: Suns Coach 2018-19
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:45 pm
by specialsauce
Cap wrote:Superbone wrote:Expect our next head coach to be bald:
Yes! I’m in the running!
You’re ahead by a hair!
Re: Suns Coach 2018-19
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:55 pm
by Superbone
specialsauce wrote:Cap wrote:Superbone wrote:Expect our next head coach to be bald:
Yes! I’m in the running!
You’re ahead by a hair!
That was really smooth, SS.
