Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 8:01 am
Going forward, can we put a link in these posts to the article in question? Unless it's forbidden, it just makes it harder to find.
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Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 8:29 am
It’s not forbidden, but when you’re telling people that a story is a non-story, linking to the non-story you want them to ignore might seem kinda pointless.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 8:01 amGoing forward, can we put a link in these posts to the article in question? Unless it's forbidden, it just makes it harder to find.
If you don’t know what he’s talking about, you don’t really need to. It’s a non-story.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 8:34 am
Cap wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 8:29 amIt’s not forbidden, but when you’re telling people that a story is a non-story, linking to the non-story you want them to ignore might seem kinda pointless.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 8:01 amGoing forward, can we put a link in these posts to the article in question? Unless it's forbidden, it just makes it harder to find.
If you don’t know what he’s talking about, you don’t really need to. It’s a non-story.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 9:01 am
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 9:03 am
LOL. It is a chicken and egg issue, is it not? It forced me to google hoopshype and drive even more traffic to that silly "non-story".O_Gardino wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 8:34 amCap wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 8:29 amIt’s not forbidden, but when you’re telling people that a story is a non-story, linking to the non-story you want them to ignore might seem kinda pointless.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 8:01 amGoing forward, can we put a link in these posts to the article in question? Unless it's forbidden, it just makes it harder to find.
If you don’t know what he’s talking about, you don’t really need to. It’s a non-story.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 9:13 am
Before reading anything the page, I saw the gif and thought for sure the conversation was going to be about Bryan Colangelo. Dude has nice collars.O_Gardino wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 8:34 amCap wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 8:29 amIt’s not forbidden, but when you’re telling people that a story is a non-story, linking to the non-story you want them to ignore might seem kinda pointless.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 8:01 amGoing forward, can we put a link in these posts to the article in question? Unless it's forbidden, it just makes it harder to find.
If you don’t know what he’s talking about, you don’t really need to. It’s a non-story.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 9:16 am
They are normal collars. Now move along to the "Around the League" thread if you want to talk Tweetgate.jonh wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 9:13 amBefore reading anything the page, I saw the gif and thought for sure the conversation was going to be about Bryan Colangelo. Dude has nice collars.O_Gardino wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 8:34 amCap wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 8:29 amIt’s not forbidden, but when you’re telling people that a story is a non-story, linking to the non-story you want them to ignore might seem kinda pointless.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 8:01 amGoing forward, can we put a link in these posts to the article in question? Unless it's forbidden, it just makes it harder to find.
If you don’t know what he’s talking about, you don’t really need to. It’s a non-story.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 8:47 pm
My dream scenario...
Trade #1:
Suns get: JR Smith, #3 pick, #8 pick
Hawks get: Brandon Knight, #1 pick, #31 pick, #59 pick
Cleveland gets: Dennis Schroeder, Marquese Chriss, #16 pick
Trade #2
Phoenix gets: Kenneth Faried, #14 pick
Denver gets: Alan Williams, Davon Reed, Tyler Ulis
Trade #3
Phoenix gets: #4 pick, Chandler Parsons
Memphis gets: #8 pick, Jared Dudley, JR Smith, Milwaukee pick
Draft Doncic at #3, Jaren Jackson Jr. at #4, and at #14 I would decide among Lonnie Walker Jr./Zhaire Smith/Aaron Holiday.
Trade #1:
Suns get: JR Smith, #3 pick, #8 pick
Hawks get: Brandon Knight, #1 pick, #31 pick, #59 pick
Cleveland gets: Dennis Schroeder, Marquese Chriss, #16 pick
Trade #2
Phoenix gets: Kenneth Faried, #14 pick
Denver gets: Alan Williams, Davon Reed, Tyler Ulis
Trade #3
Phoenix gets: #4 pick, Chandler Parsons
Memphis gets: #8 pick, Jared Dudley, JR Smith, Milwaukee pick
Draft Doncic at #3, Jaren Jackson Jr. at #4, and at #14 I would decide among Lonnie Walker Jr./Zhaire Smith/Aaron Holiday.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 9:41 pm
Interesting trade scenario. I'm not totally against JJJ, but not totally sold on him either. Let me see, the Suns trade Knight, #1, #16, #31, #59, Milwaukee's pick, Chriss, Big Sauce, Reed, Ulis and Dudley for Doncic, JJJ, one of these guards, JR Smith, Faried, and Parsons.INFORMER wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 8:47 pmMy dream scenario...
Trade #1:
Suns get: JR Smith, #3 pick, #8 pick
Hawks get: Brandon Knight, #1 pick, #31 pick, #59 pick
Cleveland gets: Dennis Schroeder, Marquese Chriss, #16 pick
Trade #2
Phoenix gets: Kenneth Faried, #14 pick
Denver gets: Alan Williams, Davon Reed, Tyler Ulis
Trade #3
Phoenix gets: #4 pick, Chandler Parsons
Memphis gets: #8 pick, Jared Dudley, JR Smith, Milwaukee pick
Draft Doncic at #3, Jaren Jackson Jr. at #4, and at #14 I would decide among Lonnie Walker Jr./Zhaire Smith/Aaron Holiday.
Pre Free Agency roster:
Doncic / Holiday / Harrison
Booker / Smith
Warren / Jackson / Parsons
Faried / Bender
JJJ / Chandler
I'm guessing from this that the Suns wouldn't have any money left for FA, right? Interesting...
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 9:52 pm
Ainge certainly set the stage for trading a #1 pick last year. I would do the deal if I could be assured Doncic would fall and we could also get #4. If Doncic slides don't you figure JJJ would go #2? We'd then pick either Bagley or Carter. If we also come back in at #14 I would give MPJ a good long look.
Also re: that line-up, you are almost forced to start Josh Jackson with Doncic because he will have to guard the opposing PG. That's not something Warren can do.
Also re: that line-up, you are almost forced to start Josh Jackson with Doncic because he will have to guard the opposing PG. That's not something Warren can do.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 11:09 pm
JR Smith would be in Memphis.
I think Sacramento will go with Bagley.
Yeah, my projected line-up would be a little different from In2's:
Utility Guard: Zhaire Smith
Shooting Guard: Devin Booker
Small Forward: Josh Jackson
Point Forward: Luke Doncic
Center: Kenneth Faried
Warren would be my sixth man.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 12:44 pm
Question about free agency. We will probably have around 11/12 million in cap space assuming we release cap holds on Len/Payton. In order to get up to the 18 million number that has been mentioned, we'd need to waive the non guaranteed contracts of Ulis/Williams/Reed. Williams is the one whose contract matters as he's set to make 5ish million dollars.
So my question, if we need to use the 18 million to sign a FA, can we waive Williams and sign him later using the room exception? Does anyone understand how the room exception works? I saw this link and it seems like we could essentially give Alan Williams a 2/10 contract which is essentially what he has right now anyways.
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2017/08/how ... tions.html
So my question, if we need to use the 18 million to sign a FA, can we waive Williams and sign him later using the room exception? Does anyone understand how the room exception works? I saw this link and it seems like we could essentially give Alan Williams a 2/10 contract which is essentially what he has right now anyways.
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2017/08/how ... tions.html
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 9:29 pm
Sure, I definitely don't post enough news so I feel ya.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 8:01 amGoing forward, can we put a link in these posts to the article in question? Unless it's forbidden, it just makes it harder to find.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:12 am
RMLE is a contract created during the last CBA revision, looking to compesate teams under the cap for losing the MLE and biannual exceptions. You can use the RMLE contract after you spent your cap space, and said contract can have up to two years, starting at around $4.5M for 2018-19. Also, it can be broken down on more than one player.Split T wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 12:44 pmQuestion about free agency. We will probably have around 11/12 million in cap space assuming we release cap holds on Len/Payton. In order to get up to the 18 million number that has been mentioned, we'd need to waive the non guaranteed contracts of Ulis/Williams/Reed. Williams is the one whose contract matters as he's set to make 5ish million dollars.
So my question, if we need to use the 18 million to sign a FA, can we waive Williams and sign him later using the room exception? Does anyone understand how the room exception works? I saw this link and it seems like we could essentially give Alan Williams a 2/10 contract which is essentially what he has right now anyways.
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2017/08/how ... tions.html
From what I understand, what PHX would be doing with Sauce is not trading, buying out or stretching him, just waiving his non guaranteed contract. The one year restriction to resign a player operates under the first three scenarios, but not Sauce's, so PHX would be able to offer him the RMLE if Sauce waits until we have done our moves.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:15 am
Thanks, Ring.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:33 am
Ya, appreciate it Ring. Feels like that could be the plan if we need that extra space.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:57 am
Maybe I'm just greedy and reluctant to give up on players. But I really hope they don't just let all those guys go. Especially Williams and Ulis, I think they have talent and can play in our rotation.Split T wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 12:44 pmQuestion about free agency. We will probably have around 11/12 million in cap space assuming we release cap holds on Len/Payton. In order to get up to the 18 million number that has been mentioned, we'd need to waive the non guaranteed contracts of Ulis/Williams/Reed. Williams is the one whose contract matters as he's set to make 5ish million dollars.
So my question, if we need to use the 18 million to sign a FA, can we waive Williams and sign him later using the room exception? Does anyone understand how the room exception works? I saw this link and it seems like we could essentially give Alan Williams a 2/10 contract which is essentially what he has right now anyways.
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2017/08/how ... tions.html
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:06 am
I don't want to give up Williams either but they made that contract non- guaranteed for a reason and in this scenario, they'd be resigning him. I'm fine losing Ulis, he's just too small and can't shoot.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:30 am
Pssst. Stretch Knight.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:32 am
I doubt they'd drop Williams this season.
He's popular with fans and teammates, and his mom his head of Phoenix PD.
He's also a local guy (North High) and has community appeal.
He's popular with fans and teammates, and his mom his head of Phoenix PD.
He's also a local guy (North High) and has community appeal.