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Re: NBA Playoffs WCSF, Game 7: Dallas Mavericks @ Phoenix Suns (3-3), Sunday 15/05/22
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:04 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Uncle_Gene wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 9:03 pm
The reacquisition of Torrey Craig didn't work this time around. They should've kept Jalen Smith.
In retrospect, knowing they weren't going to use Holiday AT ALL, it was a ridiculous trade to make.
Re: NBA Playoffs WCSF, Game 7: Dallas Mavericks @ Phoenix Suns (3-3), Sunday 15/05/22
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:05 pm
by specialsauce
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 8:42 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 6:44 pm
All you guys that said CP3s minutes weren’t a problem are eating a ton of shit.
Rather CP3 is worn out. Or he fucking sucks when we need him the most. Not only is he ineffective playing. His leadership was trash. His entire team has forgotten their offensive system. Pure panic. And he’s not setting them up or settling them down.
Get this team fresh blood. CP3 gotta go or not be relied on so much. He can’t last a postseason and I don’t give two shits about regular season success.
Just pathetic showing. A failed season. Waste of time. Anyone that is okay with regular season success and makes an appreciation thread is part of this organizational problem of being bad for so long that participation trophies are okay. Meanwhile GS, LA, and other organizations just rack up championships every few years.
Dude, not the time. Don’t take it out on the fans.
Classic. It’s not a problem it’s not a problem it’s not a problem!
……it’s a problem……
Dude! Not now! Wait till next year when we repeat that it’s not a problem!
Re: NBA Playoffs WCSF, Game 7: Dallas Mavericks @ Phoenix Suns (3-3), Sunday 15/05/22
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:05 pm
by Superbone
SunsRIt wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 8:17 pm
I really want more on this Monte/Ayton confrontation. Ayton only played 17 minutes in the game. Booker, Bridges and Paul all played over 30.
He was a walking foul with no production. How could he think he should play more?
Re: NBA Playoffs WCSF, Game 7: Dallas Mavericks @ Phoenix Suns (3-3), Sunday 15/05/22
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:06 pm
by Wally_West
Uncle_Gene wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 9:03 pm
The reacquisition of Torrey Craig didn't work this time around. They should've kept Jalen Smith.
Not drafting Haliburton is one of many haunting draft mistakes by this franchise.
Re: NBA Playoffs WCSF, Game 7: Dallas Mavericks @ Phoenix Suns (3-3), Sunday 15/05/22
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:06 pm
by Uncle_Gene
CP3 wasn't aggressive offensively tonight.
Re: NBA Playoffs WCSF, Game 7: Dallas Mavericks @ Phoenix Suns (3-3), Sunday 15/05/22
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:08 pm
by AmareIsGod
Re: NBA Playoffs WCSF, Game 7: Dallas Mavericks @ Phoenix Suns (3-3), Sunday 15/05/22
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:08 pm
by Split T
I’m pretty sure CP3 was hurt and in that case Monty needs to take some blame for letting him play.
Re: NBA Playoffs WCSF, Game 7: Dallas Mavericks @ Phoenix Suns (3-3), Sunday 15/05/22
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:09 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Uncle_Gene wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 9:06 pm
CP3 wasn't aggressive offensively tonight.
Was pretty clear on his first shot of the game. Great pump fake to get himself open, then he essentially put up a 15-foot set shot that rimmed out.
Re: NBA Playoffs WCSF, Game 7: Dallas Mavericks @ Phoenix Suns (3-3), Sunday 15/05/22
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:09 pm
by specialsauce
If I’m the Suns and my choices are to trade off CP3’s contract or extend DA - I am choosing DA.
CP3 is only going to decline. DA is still just 23. Id rather reward the young player on the rise who had a tough series than an again ball dominant player on the decline who disappeared yet again as the game became more physically demanding.
Re: NBA Playoffs WCSF, Game 7: Dallas Mavericks @ Phoenix Suns (3-3), Sunday 15/05/22
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:10 pm
by SunsRIt
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 9:05 pm
SunsRIt wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 8:17 pm
I really want more on this Monte/Ayton confrontation. Ayton only played 17 minutes in the game. Booker, Bridges and Paul all played over 30.
He was a walking foul with no production. How could he think he should play more?
Nobody did anything in the first half! Nobody. They had 27 points at halftime. Why single out Ayton?
Re: NBA Playoffs WCSF, Game 7: Dallas Mavericks @ Phoenix Suns (3-3), Sunday 15/05/22
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:10 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Split T wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 9:08 pm
I’m pretty sure CP3 was hurt and in that case Monty needs to take some blame for letting him play.
I've come around on the injury thing. I think you guys are right. Must be something with his lower body. He had no juice.
Re: NBA Playoffs WCSF, Game 7: Dallas Mavericks @ Phoenix Suns (3-3), Sunday 15/05/22
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:10 pm
by specialsauce
Split T wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 9:08 pm
I’m pretty sure CP3 was hurt and in that case Monty needs to take some blame for letting him play.
He always hurt. Not an excuse
Re: NBA Playoffs WCSF, Game 7: Dallas Mavericks @ Phoenix Suns (3-3), Sunday 15/05/22
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:11 pm
by SunsRIt
specialsauce wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 9:09 pm
If I’m the Suns and my choices are to trade off CP3’s contract or extend DA - I am choosing DA.
CP3 is only going to decline. DA is still just 23. Id rather reward the young player on the rise who had a tough series than an again ball dominant player on the decline who disappeared yet again as the game became more physically demanding.
I agree with this.
Re: NBA Playoffs WCSF, Game 7: Dallas Mavericks @ Phoenix Suns (3-3), Sunday 15/05/22
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:11 pm
by iLLmatic
Yeah I'm ready to move on from CP3 and Ayton and Cam Payne.
Trading away Jalen Smith for T Craig is looking pretty stupid too.
CP is just old now. The guy had a ton of games off after the surgery towards the end of the season and he still looked old and slow save for a couple of games in the playoffs.
I'm still trying to figure out why Monty played our games for a shit ton of minutes after we clinched the first seed.
Last season was more fun because there were no expectations and they kicked a bunch of teams asses in the playoffs. This year they folded like a cheap tent to Doncic and a bunch of second rounders.
Re: NBA Playoffs WCSF, Game 7: Dallas Mavericks @ Phoenix Suns (3-3), Sunday 15/05/22
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:12 pm
by TOO
specialsauce wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 9:09 pm
If I’m the Suns and my choices are to trade off CP3’s contract or extend DA - I am choosing DA.
CP3 is only going to decline. DA is still just 23. Id rather reward the young player on the rise who had a tough series than an again ball dominant player on the decline who disappeared yet again as the game became more physically demanding.
DA is soft, can't pay him. Especially when he's so reliant on others to get him good shots because he has no bag and average hands.
Re: NBA Playoffs WCSF, Game 7: Dallas Mavericks @ Phoenix Suns (3-3), Sunday 15/05/22
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:14 pm
by Uncle_Gene
Just so frustrated right now. Really wanted this year to be the year the Suns got over the hump and win it all. I feel bad for Al McCoy and Suns fans everywhere. A loss down the stretch is one thing, but to be totally blown out, can't play any defense at all, and play your worst game in a game 7 is crazy.
Re: NBA Playoffs WCSF, Game 7: Dallas Mavericks @ Phoenix Suns (3-3), Sunday 15/05/22
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:16 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
I just simply don't trust Ayton to ever be consistent enough to warrant the contract he wants. There's really no reason to include Paul in that debate.
Re: NBA Playoffs WCSF, Game 7: Dallas Mavericks @ Phoenix Suns (3-3), Sunday 15/05/22
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:17 pm
by specialsauce
TOO wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 9:12 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 9:09 pm
If I’m the Suns and my choices are to trade off CP3’s contract or extend DA - I am choosing DA.
CP3 is only going to decline. DA is still just 23. Id rather reward the young player on the rise who had a tough series than an again ball dominant player on the decline who disappeared yet again as the game became more physically demanding.
DA is soft, can't pay him. Especially when he's so reliant on others to get him good shots because he has no bag and average hands.
I’m okay getting rid of both. But I can’t get behind team CP3.
If we keep CP3 we are cash strapped. In the scenario that we’re cash strapped, I’d prefer to roll with a cheap CP3 replacement over a cheap DA replacement unless you want to make drastic changes and get rid of CP3, Crowder AND DA and resign Cam J and roll with a CamJ/Book/Bridges core.
I am going to hate next year if we run it back with the same team minus the one player that gives us a different dimension (DA).
Re: NBA Playoffs WCSF, Game 7: Dallas Mavericks @ Phoenix Suns (3-3), Sunday 15/05/22
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:18 pm
by Uncle_Gene
I don't want to hear about CP and Booker being tired. They had two days off between games. Suns made no adjustments.
Re: NBA Playoffs WCSF, Game 7: Dallas Mavericks @ Phoenix Suns (3-3), Sunday 15/05/22
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:21 pm
by specialsauce
Jae Crowder shot 31% from 3 in the playoffs. He doesn’t rebound. He doesn’t score in the paint.
You have got to get more production out of your starting 4. They should have made some moves at the trade deadline and we all knew it would bite them in the playoffs. Don’t be a bunch of idiots and make the same mistake in the off-season.
Forget about loyalty. We need production. Go get a legit starting 4.