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Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:03 pm
by Indy
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:02 pm
Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:14 am
If after all the dust settles KD isn't in PHX and we still have a disgruntled Ayton on the roster, somebody needs fired..
I'd rather move ahead with Ayton than gut the team for KD. I hope we stay strong and don't cave in to demands.
You'd rather pay a ~50-ish guy that doesn't want to be here than trade a bunch of players not in our top 2 for a top 5 NBA player that said he did want to be here?
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:04 pm
by Indy
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:00 pm
Gambo is getting jealous and going after FLEX now. Heh heh.
It would be really good news if Gambo's sources don't know as much as Flex's, because that would mean Sarver is not involved.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:05 pm
by Superbone
Indy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:03 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:02 pm
Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:14 am
If after all the dust settles KD isn't in PHX and we still have a disgruntled Ayton on the roster, somebody needs fired..
I'd rather move ahead with Ayton than gut the team for KD. I hope we stay strong and don't cave in to demands.
You'd rather pay a ~50-ish guy that doesn't want to be here than trade a bunch of players not in our top 2 for a top 5 NBA player that said he did want to be here?
Here's what I don't want. A team of KD, Book, and Paul with a bunch of scrubs.
50-ish? I though you were talking about KD for a minute.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:20 pm
by Mori Chu
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:05 pm
Here's what I don't want. A team of KD, Book, and Paul with a bunch of scrubs.
Agreed. That team would be brittle and have problems on defense. We really need to keep some of our wings and guard depth.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:39 pm
by Split T
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:20 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:05 pm
Here's what I don't want. A team of KD, Book, and Paul with a bunch of scrubs.
Agreed. That team would be brittle and have problems on defense. We really need to keep some of our wings and guard depth.
Guard depth? You’re gonna pass on KD over losing Landry Shamet and Cam Payne?
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:52 pm
by Shabazz
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:05 pm
Indy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:03 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:02 pm
Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:14 am
If after all the dust settles KD isn't in PHX and we still have a disgruntled Ayton on the roster, somebody needs fired..
I'd rather move ahead with Ayton than gut the team for KD. I hope we stay strong and don't cave in to demands.
You'd rather pay a ~50-ish guy that doesn't want to be here than trade a bunch of players not in our top 2 for a top 5 NBA player that said he did want to be here?
Here's what I don't want. A team of KD, Book, and Paul with a bunch of scrubs.
50-ish? I though you were talking about KD for a minute.
I have the same concerns. We lose Mikal and Cam in the trade and don’t address the center position and we’re last year’s lakers.
I don’t think CP/Book/Jae/KD/Biz is a championship team. It will struggle mightily against bigger lineups.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 1:30 pm
by TOO
I've already got KD fatigue, still bummed we punted the draft so there isn't a new rookie to discuss, ho hum.
Hope the new euro kid plays well in SL I guess.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:35 pm
by Mori Chu
Are any of you guys refreshing Twitter every 20 minutes to see whether KD has gotten traded? Asking for a friend.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:48 pm
by Superbone
I just check in about every hour or so here.
Waiting for that new thread. No new thread? Nothing happened yet.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:50 pm
by specialsauce
Split T wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:39 pm
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:20 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:05 pm
Here's what I don't want. A team of KD, Book, and Paul with a bunch of scrubs.
Agreed. That team would be brittle and have problems on defense. We really need to keep some of our wings and guard depth.
Guard depth? You’re gonna pass on KD over losing Landry Shamet and Cam Payne?
We don’t have guard depth, I don’t know what Mori is talking about. We have Booker, Paul and The Garbagio Duo off the bench
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:32 pm
by AmareIsGod
Waiting for the new thread or for this thread to surge 4 more pages every hour.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:32 pm
by Split T
Exactly
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:32 pm
by Drewsprocket
Shabazz wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:52 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:05 pm
Indy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:03 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:02 pm
Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:14 am
If after all the dust settles KD isn't in PHX and we still have a disgruntled Ayton on the roster, somebody needs fired..
I'd rather move ahead with Ayton than gut the team for KD. I hope we stay strong and don't cave in to demands.
You'd rather pay a ~50-ish guy that doesn't want to be here than trade a bunch of players not in our top 2 for a top 5 NBA player that said he did want to be here?
Here's what I don't want. A team of KD, Book, and Paul with a bunch of scrubs.
50-ish? I though you were talking about KD for a minute.
I have the same concerns. We lose Mikal and Cam in the trade and don’t address the center position and we’re last year’s lakers.
I don’t think CP/Book/Jae/KD/Biz is a championship team. It will struggle mightily against bigger lineups.
I am still cool if we keep Ayton if we strike out on KD. In that event JJ has to have a plan to flip Jae for a 3rd guard.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:33 pm
by Superbone
AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:32 pm
Waiting for the new thread or for this thread to surge 4 more pages every hour.
I'd prefer option 1.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:51 pm
by Superbone
Here ya go!
Marc J. Spears: Warriors ‘have interest’ in trading for Kevin Durant [report]
https://www.knbr.com/2022/07/03/marc-j- ... &fs=e&s=cl
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:58 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
BFD.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:49 pm
by Wally_West
Still very confident something gets done, way less confident it get done in the next couple days like I originally thought. Feels like we won’t hear something until mid-end of next week. News will probably drop when I’m watching Thor smh lol
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:02 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Seems like there are two factors holding up the deal.
1. Ayton - I don't totally buy the Nets being uninterested in him. I think the situation would be different if he and his agent didn't have this delusion about being a max-level player. The Nets don't want to be hard capped, which I think is wise on their part. I think both sides (Brookly & Ayton) would prefer to find a third team for that reason, but maybe that would change if Ayton lowered his contract demand.
2. Mikal - I've always thought he'd be the player haggled over the most since this news broke. I think the Suns will ultimately have to include him, but hopefully at the expense of holding onto Cam and other rotation players.
Ayton and Mikal with a bunch of picks is on par with every conceivable deal I've heard. Toronto isn't going to trade Siakam and Anunoby, Boston isn't going to trade Brown and Smart, Maimi isn't going to (can't) trade Adebayo and Herro, etc.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:06 pm
by JeremyG
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:02 pm
Seems like there are two factors holding up the deal.
1. Ayton - I don't totally buy the Nets being uninterested in him. I think the situation would be different if he and his agent didn't have this delusion about being a max-level player. The Nets don't want to be hard capped, which I think is wise on their part. I think both sides (Brookly & Ayton) would prefer to find a third team for that reason, but maybe that would change if Ayton lowered his contract demand.
2. Mikal - I've always thought he'd be the player haggled over the most since this news broke. I think the Suns will ultimately have to include him, but hopefully at the expense of holding onto Cam and other rotation players.
Ayton and Mikal with a bunch of picks is on par with every conceivable deal I've heard. Toronto isn't going to trade Siakam and Anunoby, Boston isn't going to trade Brown and Smart, Maimi isn't going to (can't) trade Adebayo and Herro, etc.
I thought it's illegal for Brooklyn to trade for Ayton because they're already over the hard cap?
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:11 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:06 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:02 pm
Seems like there are two factors holding up the deal.
1. Ayton - I don't totally buy the Nets being uninterested in him. I think the situation would be different if he and his agent didn't have this delusion about being a max-level player. The Nets don't want to be hard capped, which I think is wise on their part. I think both sides (Brookly & Ayton) would prefer to find a third team for that reason, but maybe that would change if Ayton lowered his contract demand.
2. Mikal - I've always thought he'd be the player haggled over the most since this news broke. I think the Suns will ultimately have to include him, but hopefully at the expense of holding onto Cam and other rotation players.
Ayton and Mikal with a bunch of picks is on par with every conceivable deal I've heard. Toronto isn't going to trade Siakam and Anunoby, Boston isn't going to trade Brown and Smart, Maimi isn't going to (can't) trade Adebayo and Herro, etc.
I thought it's illegal for Brooklyn to trade for Ayton because they're already over the hard cap?
Not the case if KD is going out or if Kyrie is traded first.