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Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:21 am
by TOO
If he does well, Jeremy will ramble on about how misused he was in Phoenix, if he doesn't, Jeremy will ramble on about how misused he was in Portland. Its an infinite loop.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:04 am
by Nodack
Kryptonic wrote:
Sun Oct 15, 2023 9:40 am
Would be hilarious if Marty or bone lock this at page 199 😂
Mods these days have it so easy. Back in the day…

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:38 am
by Mori Chu
I would never lock this thread and stop people from bitching about Ayton. It's practically the main draw of traffic to the site these days!

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:43 am
by Superbone
MightyMoog wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:03 am
Anyone else excited for the Ayton revenge game?
Since it was so exciting last time? Same 'ol Ayton. I thought that might fire him up for more than one dunk and one blocked shot.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:44 am
by Superbone
TOO wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:21 am
If he does well, Jeremy will ramble on about how misused he was in Phoenix, if he doesn't, Jeremy will ramble on about how misused he was in Portland. Its an infinite loop.
I can't wait to hear what Piano34225882432 has to say!

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:48 am
by TOO
Superbone wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:44 am
TOO wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:21 am
If he does well, Jeremy will ramble on about how misused he was in Phoenix, if he doesn't, Jeremy will ramble on about how misused he was in Portland. Its an infinite loop.
I can't wait to hear what Piano34225882432 has to say!
Know basketball genius Piano34225882432.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:14 pm
by JeremyG
Piano dude is y’all’s chosen expert not mine.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:17 pm
by AmareIsGod
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:14 pm
Piano dude is y’all’s chosen expert not mine.
Who's y'all and why do you keep saying that? Was there a person here that agreed with a Tweet from this person? Agreeing with one view or opinion isn't blanket agreement of everything someone says. You've made awesome points beyond Ayton that I've agreed with over the years. That doesn't mean I agree with the majority of your Ayton takes.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:27 pm
by JeremyG
AmareIsGod wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:17 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:14 pm
Piano dude is y’all’s chosen expert not mine.
Who's y'all and why do you keep saying that? Was there a person here that agreed with a Tweet from this person? Agreeing with one view or opinion isn't blanket agreement of everything someone says. You've made awesome points beyond Ayton that I've agreed with over the years. That doesn't mean I agree with the majority of your Ayton takes.
Piano dude’s Reddit comments on Ayton’s first Blazers game were posted at least twice on here (and all over Suns Twitter), with multiple posters taking his summary as gospel. Remember this was for a game that probably none of us watched, since it was not televised.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:29 pm
by Mori Chu
I wish I were that reddit Piano guy. I have a case of pianist envy.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:33 pm
by Superbone
Mori Chu wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:29 pm
I wish I were that reddit Piano guy. I have a case of pianist envy.
He can tickle my ivories any day.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:33 pm
by Split T
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:27 pm
AmareIsGod wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:17 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:14 pm
Piano dude is y’all’s chosen expert not mine.
Who's y'all and why do you keep saying that? Was there a person here that agreed with a Tweet from this person? Agreeing with one view or opinion isn't blanket agreement of everything someone says. You've made awesome points beyond Ayton that I've agreed with over the years. That doesn't mean I agree with the majority of your Ayton takes.
Piano dude’s Reddit comments on Ayton’s first Blazers game were posted at least twice on here (and all over Suns Twitter), with multiple posters taking his summary as gospel. Remember this was for a game that probably none of us watched, since it was not televised.
You are way overblowing this situation. We all just thought it was funny that a Portland fan was having the same concerns we all(well mostly all) did when Ayton played here.

Please show me someone taking his post as gospel…and I mean on here, not from Twitter.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:37 pm
by Superbone
Split T wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:33 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:27 pm
AmareIsGod wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:17 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:14 pm
Piano dude is y’all’s chosen expert not mine.
Who's y'all and why do you keep saying that? Was there a person here that agreed with a Tweet from this person? Agreeing with one view or opinion isn't blanket agreement of everything someone says. You've made awesome points beyond Ayton that I've agreed with over the years. That doesn't mean I agree with the majority of your Ayton takes.
Piano dude’s Reddit comments on Ayton’s first Blazers game were posted at least twice on here (and all over Suns Twitter), with multiple posters taking his summary as gospel. Remember this was for a game that probably none of us watched, since it was not televised.
You are way overblowing this situation. We all just thought it was funny that a Portland fan was having the same concerns we all(well mostly all) did when Ayton played here.

Please show me someone taking his post as gospel…and I mean on here, not from Twitter.
Yes, of course. This exactly. Then Jeremy posted his game two observations.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:41 pm
by Split T
This is pretty telling to me and confirms moving Ayton was the right move. He did not want to play a role and we are not in a position to develop him into the player he wants to be. Not with the offensive firepower we have on the perimeter.


Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:46 pm
by Superbone
Yep, it's pretty obvious now that Ayton wanted more than his role he was given here and that he wasn't happy here. Can we all just be happy that he got what he wants and is now in a better situation for him?

Of course not.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:55 pm
by ShelC
From what I saw on Friday night, if he felt like an afterthought in Phoenix it might be way worse in Portland. At least here there was a concerted effort to keep him involved here so he'd stay engaged defensively. Portland didn't make much of an effort to get him shots and with Simons, Scoot and Grant he might be in the 4th role there just the same. Maybe that'll change with more time and Billups makes it a point to play thru DA but I'm skeptical. He's just not a forceful player who's going to demand the ball and make things happen and the other 3 are just higher usage guys. If the roster stays as is, Williams might be the ideal big for them.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:58 pm
by Superbone
Deandre Ayton happy to be valued by Blazers, moving on from Suns

https://arizonasports.com/story/3536226 ... from-suns/

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:27 pm
by JeremyG
Superbone wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:37 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:33 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:27 pm
AmareIsGod wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:17 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:14 pm
Piano dude is y’all’s chosen expert not mine.
Who's y'all and why do you keep saying that? Was there a person here that agreed with a Tweet from this person? Agreeing with one view or opinion isn't blanket agreement of everything someone says. You've made awesome points beyond Ayton that I've agreed with over the years. That doesn't mean I agree with the majority of your Ayton takes.
Piano dude’s Reddit comments on Ayton’s first Blazers game were posted at least twice on here (and all over Suns Twitter), with multiple posters taking his summary as gospel. Remember this was for a game that probably none of us watched, since it was not televised.
You are way overblowing this situation. We all just thought it was funny that a Portland fan was having the same concerns we all(well mostly all) did when Ayton played here.

Please show me someone taking his post as gospel…and I mean on here, not from Twitter.
Yes, of course. This exactly. Then Jeremy posted his game two observations.
To show the hypocrisy. It’s going to be hilarious when people are posting his game three observations after ignoring his game two observations, if he goes back to criticizing DA.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:31 pm
by Superbone
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:27 pm
Superbone wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:37 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:33 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:27 pm
AmareIsGod wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:17 pm


Who's y'all and why do you keep saying that? Was there a person here that agreed with a Tweet from this person? Agreeing with one view or opinion isn't blanket agreement of everything someone says. You've made awesome points beyond Ayton that I've agreed with over the years. That doesn't mean I agree with the majority of your Ayton takes.
Piano dude’s Reddit comments on Ayton’s first Blazers game were posted at least twice on here (and all over Suns Twitter), with multiple posters taking his summary as gospel. Remember this was for a game that probably none of us watched, since it was not televised.
You are way overblowing this situation. We all just thought it was funny that a Portland fan was having the same concerns we all(well mostly all) did when Ayton played here.

Please show me someone taking his post as gospel…and I mean on here, not from Twitter.
Yes, of course. This exactly. Then Jeremy posted his game two observations.
To show the hypocrisy. It’s going to be hilarious when people are posting his game three observations after ignoring his game two observations, if he goes back to criticizing DA.
I wouldn't even know where to find it.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:36 pm
by JeremyG
Split T wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:41 pm
This is pretty telling to me and confirms moving Ayton was the right move. He did not want to play a role and we are not in a position to develop him into the player he wants to be. Not with the offensive firepower we have on the perimeter.

Listening to the clips and reading Kellan’s article tells me the opposite: it was the wrong move—he was happy to be here like he stated even before Monty got fired, and he would have been fine playing for the Suns this season. There was absolutely no need to make a bad trade just to get rid of him, especially once we hired a coach who loved him.
On media day, he thanked the Suns for “accommodating to his wishes.” When I take out my handy, “What did you mean by that?” chart, it could indicate Phoenix simply helped Ayton get to a situation he preferred once it was clear the Suns were moving on from him. Or, Ayton asked for a trade.

Sounds like the former.

Ayton clarified on Monday he was under the impression he was staying in Phoenix and did not anticipate at any point in his summer that would change.

https://arizonasports.com/story/3536226 ... from-suns/


He was expecting to stay in Phoenix and was just trying to get better and change the narrative.