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Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:46 pm
by O_Gardino
Superbone wrote:So, I have a couple games to watch from near the end of the season when I was in Vegas. Just watched the Atlanta game (Houston win coming up). Here are my notes. The Hawks announcers couldn't stop gushing about Booker. This was his 34 point game. I hope we resign Teletovic. This was the game where he set the NBA record for threes off the bench.
I don't think Archie is ever going to "get it." I think he'll be a career journeyman if even that. A shooting guard just can't get by without a decent outside shot. And he definitely doesn't have the handles to be a point guard. He had a bunch of turnovers in this one. The team played hard even though it was a lost season. Gotta give Watson credit for that. Speaking of which, he's got a cool demeanor on the sidelines. I never seem to see his emotions change. I look forward to seeing what the team looks like after a full training camp with him at the helm.
I agree about Archie. I like that he plays above the rim, but he doesn't bring enough else to the table. Agree about Teletovic.
The best part about those end of season games (for me) was watching Book see the double team coming and attack before it could get there. Smart kid, and he plays hard. Fingers crossed for him.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 7:14 am
by carey
https://twitter.com/DaveKingNBA/status/739454166897176577
Duh.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 7:28 am
by Mori Chu
Superbone wrote:So, I have a couple games to watch from near the end of the season when I was in Vegas. Just watched the Atlanta game (Houston win coming up). Here are my notes. The Hawks announcers couldn't stop gushing about Booker. This was his 34 point game. I hope we resign Teletovic. This was the game where he set the NBA record for threes off the bench.
I don't think Archie is ever going to "get it." I think he'll be a career journeyman if even that. A shooting guard just can't get by without a decent outside shot. And he definitely doesn't have the handles to be a point guard. He had a bunch of turnovers in this one. The team played hard even though it was a lost season. Gotta give Watson credit for that. Speaking of which, he's got a cool demeanor on the sidelines. I never seem to see his emotions change. I look forward to seeing what the team looks like after a full training camp with him at the helm.
Thanks for the recap, but could you try to be more punctual about the next one?
I agree with you about Archie. I gave up on the guy. He is not going to be a productive NBA player. He's only good at one thing, charging at the basket, so on his best day he's a homeless man's Russell Westbrook, and Russ just blew a 3-1 playoff series for his team. Archie is not going to be good on a winning team, ever. We need to cut ties with him.
I also would be happy to bring Tele back. He's a solid vet and a great shooter.
I'll wait and see about Watson. I do like that he's out with the players and staff hanging out and building camaraderie. I do want to see how he'll do this year.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 7:47 am
by The Bobster
If you're a SG who can't shoot you have to absolutely excel at other areas of the game to be productive. A few of you might remember T.R. Dunn, who played for Portland and Denver for years (and the Suns briefly). He couldn't score, but he had a physique like a Greek statue and was a great defender and rebounder. You knew exactly what you were getting from him every night and they built a team that could afford his lack of offense (with guys like Dan Issel, Kiki Vandeweghe and Alex English).
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:10 am
by Mori Chu
The Bobster wrote:If you're a SG who can't shoot you have to absolutely excel at other areas of the game to be productive.
Dwyane Wade is kind of the pinnacle of a shooting guard who isn't a great outside (3-point) shot, though Wade has a pretty decent midrange game. But you basically have to be Dwyane Wade to be this kind of player and be a net positive. If you're an NBA guard in 2016, you have to be a good shooter. Period.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:35 pm
by Ring_Wanted
O_Gardino wrote:Superbone wrote:So, I have a couple games to watch from near the end of the season when I was in Vegas. Just watched the Atlanta game (Houston win coming up). Here are my notes. The Hawks announcers couldn't stop gushing about Booker. This was his 34 point game. I hope we resign Teletovic. This was the game where he set the NBA record for threes off the bench.
I don't think Archie is ever going to "get it." I think he'll be a career journeyman if even that. A shooting guard just can't get by without a decent outside shot. And he definitely doesn't have the handles to be a point guard. He had a bunch of turnovers in this one. The team played hard even though it was a lost season. Gotta give Watson credit for that. Speaking of which, he's got a cool demeanor on the sidelines. I never seem to see his emotions change. I look forward to seeing what the team looks like after a full training camp with him at the helm.
I agree about Archie. I like that he plays above the rim, but he doesn't bring enough else to the table. Agree about Teletovic.
Also agree. Archie has been trapped in a numbers' game and soon his contract will expire. He should be used as a trading chip as soon as possible. Get something for him before he just vanishes.
The best part about those end of season games (for me) was watching Book see the double team coming and attack before it could get there. Smart kid, and he plays hard. Fingers crossed for him.
Absolutely. I pray for the FO to not screw up this one. It's not blind homerism.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 1:32 pm
by Superbone
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Thanks for the recap, but could you try to be more punctual about the next one?
Hey, at least it gives us an opportunity to talk a little Suns in their off-season.
Next up is the Houston game.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:03 pm
by ShelC
Chandler was just on The Jump talking about his future with the Suns. Couldn't hear it because I'm at work and they had the volume down but hopefully someone can catch it and fill us in.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:40 pm
by Shabazz
Here's the Chandler clip:
He actually provided some good context to his earlier statements where he said he didn't want to be part of a rebuild.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:45 pm
by ShelC
Awesome, thanks. Always liked him, seems like a standup guy.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:10 pm
by Superbone
ShelC wrote:Awesome, thanks. Always liked him, seems like a standup guy.
I've never heard his comedy routine but I'll take your word for it.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:58 am
by Mori Chu
"What's the deal with defensive rebounding?"
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:38 pm
by ShelC
Last time I saw legs like Tyson's they were hanging out of a nest!
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:22 pm
by Superbone
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:"What's the deal with defensive rebounding?"
Yeah, why do they have to be so defensive? Rebounds on the other end of the floor is what I find to be offensive.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:00 am
by O_Gardino
Good news: Warren has been cleared to join the team spin sessions and spa days:
http://www.nba.com/suns/blog/warren-run ... our-months
Apparently, his time on the court has been limited to shooting from very close in, and doctors are just now clearing him for more strenuous activity.
Warren has been a frequent visitor to the Suns' pre-draft workouts, often taking stand-still, close-range shots once the practice court has cleared.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:07 am
by ShelC
So Bledsoe it seems put out a tweet 3 days ago about wanting Harrison Barnes on the Suns, but quickly deleted it:
https://valleyofthesuns.com/2016/06/11/ ... -the-suns/
Psssshhhh here we go....
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:36 am
by Ring_Wanted
Yeah. Then we will call Saver cheap. Oh god please don 't let it be. Rashard Lewis.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:40 am
by Gladiator
No to Harrison Barnes at the price he'll be. Just no.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:23 am
by Mori Chu
Barnes will get way overpaid. If he came here, he'd also shut Warren (and to a lesser extent PJ) out of the rotation. So of course we'll try to sign him. Sigh.
Re: Suns News: The Offseason (2016)
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:15 am
by Ring_Wanted
Not advocating for the move at all, but I think Barnes can coexist with Warren. And there would be some minutes here and there for Tucker.
Then again, you probably have his production for a fraction of the price somewhere else. And if you don't you are not missing big time either.