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In2ition wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:13 am

Do you think that he got a brain worm from eating dog?

Mori Chu wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:26 am

Some more poll data. Biden's people have been arguing that Biden polls just as well as other candidates, so it's best for him to remain the nominee. But IMO if the other candidates poll just as well, isn't that argument that it won't harm anything to switch to a (younger and more capable) nominee?

I think Kamala would be the least bad alternative choice to consider at this point. A neat twist would be to have Biden not only exit the campaign but also resign as President (!) before November, making Kamala Harris the first woman President in US history. Not elected, sure, but it'd still be an amazing milestone for the country. Then the ticket could be Harris-Newsom, with Gavin set up to follow and run next for the Dems in 2028 or 2032. No way this will happen, but, Joe likely can't do the job for the next 4-5 years.

In2ition wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:52 am

I don't think that the DNC wants Kamala, as she comes off as dumb as a box of rocks. How many times do we have to hear, "what can be...unburdened by what has been"? Or her rants about something(a word) that she then needs to say 15 times in the same paragraph about the paragraph to make the paragraph make sense to the person reading the paragraph and thinking about the paragraph or hearing the paragraph and how it fits in the paragraph to create another paragraph?

In2ition wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:52 am

I don't think that the DNC wants Kamala, as she comes off as dumb as a box of rocks.

Mori Chu wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:06 am

In2ition wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:52 am

I don't think that the DNC wants Kamala, as she comes off as dumb as a box of rocks. How many times do we have to hear, "what can be...unburdened by what has been"? Or her rants about something(a word) that she then needs to say 15 times in the same paragraph about the paragraph to make the paragraph make sense to the person reading the paragraph and thinking about the paragraph or hearing the paragraph and how it fits in the paragraph to create another paragraph?

You've posted that clip of her saying that repeatedly. But it's a slogan, a mantra, something meant to be repeated. She knows she's repeating it. The fact that she is repeating is not evidence of her being stupid. Trump repeats slogans and phrases all the time. You just don't like her, and you don't like her slogan. (I also think it's a cheesy phrase, but I don't think it shows any evidence of her intellect one way or the other.)

You think she's "as dumb as a box of rocks" because you've seen hours and hours of negatively slanted media about her. And because she's an evil Democrat. And, frankly, because you probably have some biases. But I think that's a deep-seeded problem that much of the country has. Many many people just view women differently and judge them on different criteria than they do men. And the race part doesn't help her either in terms of how she's judged.

My criticism of Kamala is that she seems phony. Too many times I've seen her take a position on an issue, and then find out that the polling favored the other position, and then switch her position. She did this on health care as one big example. She strikes me as a politician who is not guided by deep principles but rather just wants to try to say the "right" or "popular" thing to help herself win a race or campaign. I have also read articles indicating that her 2020 campaign was disorganized and haphazard, which is probably part of why it fell apart. She may have learned lessons from that time, but who knows?

Being VP has probably been good for her political senses, but I don't know that with certainty. The VP is such a nebulous role, and it's easy for a VP to kind of fade into the background. I haven't seen her do a ton of interesting things as VP. I would support her as the nominee, though I think a (non-senile) Biden would be a better President than her. I do like Kamala more than some of the other candidates such as Klobuchar, Whitmer, etc.

In a normal race, I would favor Newsom as the nominee, the best mix of reasonable policy, optics / retail political ability, and electability. I also like Buttigieg and a few others. Long-term I would support an AOC Presidential run (my hot take is that AOC is a -spectacular- politician and leader), but I don't think she'll be ready for that for a while.

Superbone wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:51 am

In2ition wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:52 am

I don't think that the DNC wants Kamala, as she comes off as dumb as a box of rocks.

Stay classy.

Mori Chu wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:00 am

Ew. RFK ate dog meat, and took a silly photo about to chomp on a cooked dog carcass.

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, you know when your veterinary experts call a goat a dog, and your forensic experts say a photo taken in Patagonia was taken in Korea, that you’ve joined the ranks of supermarket tabloids. Keep telling America that up is down if you want. I’ll keep talking about the fact that working families can’t afford houses or groceries because our last two presidents went on a $14 trillion debt joyride, paid for by hard-working Americans.

The DNC media’s garbage pail journalism may distract us from President Biden’s cognitive deficits but it does little to elevate the national debate or reduce the price of groceries.