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Re: Immigration

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:04 am
by Nodack
In2ition wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:42 pm
Nodack wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:28 pm
Mori Chu wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:44 pm
In2ition wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 12:09 pm
Open borders is clearly the policy of Biden
What is your evidence to support this claim?
Trump killed the bipartisan immigration bill because he didn’t want Biden to score any runs and so he could campaign off of Dems not doing anything. I know In2ition doesn’t agree. I don’t freaking care. It’s totally true.

Now here’s In2 campaigning for Trump saying Dems didn’t do anything. That is SO Republican.
That bill was trash, but Nodack doesn't care about those facts.
Facts according to who? Romney doesn’t know what he is talking about because he’s a RINO? Of course the excuse would be that the bill wasn’t any good. Advertising that you did it for political reasons to score points down the road doesn’t sound as good. All my links to facts meant nothing to you. It only matters what Trump says.

Re: Immigration

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:48 am
by In2ition
Nodack wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:04 am
In2ition wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:42 pm
Nodack wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:28 pm
Mori Chu wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:44 pm
In2ition wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 12:09 pm
Open borders is clearly the policy of Biden
What is your evidence to support this claim?
Trump killed the bipartisan immigration bill because he didn’t want Biden to score any runs and so he could campaign off of Dems not doing anything. I know In2ition doesn’t agree. I don’t freaking care. It’s totally true.

Now here’s In2 campaigning for Trump saying Dems didn’t do anything. That is SO Republican.
That bill was trash, but Nodack doesn't care about those facts.
Facts according to who? Romney doesn’t know what he is talking about because he’s a RINO? Of course the excuse would be that the bill wasn’t any good. Advertising that you did it for political reasons to score points down the road doesn’t sound as good. All my links to facts meant nothing to you. It only matters what Trump says.
Anyone else that actually read the bill. It did nothing to stem the flow.

Re: Immigration

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 10:08 am
by Nodack
Well, a lot of Republicans seemed to be very excited about the deal before Trump chimed in. Of course you will say the deal sucked.

We had the deal with Iran that the entire world liked except Republicans in the US. Trump said it was a horrible deal and you can’t trust Iran. The deal was in place for FIVE years before Trump was elected and just HAD to rip up the agreement just to say FU to Obama. You can’t trust the US. Trump promised a much better deal. As everyone knows on planet earth, that was a bunch of BS. Now Iran is enriching uranium as fast as they can.

Now Republicans refuse to even try to work on an immigration plan after wanting to impeach the Homeland Security guy for not doing enough. Playing politics to the hilt.

Re: Immigration

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 10:29 am
by Mori Chu
I still haven't seen any evidence presented that any Democrat wants "open borders." That seems to be a complete fabrication by MAGA.

Re: Immigration

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:22 pm
by Cap
Mori Chu wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2024 10:29 am
I still haven't seen any evidence presented that any Democrat wants "open borders." That seems to be a complete fabrication by MAGA.
Common tactic on the right. Anyone who doesn’t embrace their extreme positions is accused of supporting an opposite extreme. You either want to deport 20 million people or you advocate open borders. There is no in between.

Re: Immigration

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:32 pm
by In2ition
That's like saying I have no evidence that you want to keep your car dirty, except for the hundreds of wrappers and filth inside it and the bird poo all over it from yrs of not washing it.(for the disingenuous, this is not a comparison of immigrants to keeping a car dirty. It's a comparison to evidence. Feels like I need to make that distinction to this crowd.)

I'm sure someone wants to deport 20 million people, but I certainly do not have share that opinion myself. Nor, do anyone I know want that many deported. It's impractical and for those that have been good citizens and established roots, family and been productive, it's cruel to do that and send them away somewhere that they have no connection with any longer.

Re: Immigration

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 7:21 am
by Mori Chu
Whenever I talk to a Republican family member or friend, there is one issue they are always, without fail, very angry about, regardless of the day, week, month, or year: immigration. I think it just comes down to the fact that Fox News blasts anti-immigrant content almost 24/7 every day. The amount of "migrant crime" coverage is just amazing to me.


Re: Immigration

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:47 am
by Mori Chu
This is good, right?


Re: Immigration

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:08 am
by In2ition
It's good that it's been going down. It seems that the administration and those in charge here are seeing that this is not a winning issue.

Re: Immigration

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:53 am
by Kryptonic

Re: Immigration

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:19 am
by Nodack
Mori Chu wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:47 am
This is good, right?


Do you think FOX News will report this? If they do they will add the spin that it was because of the anticipated Trump Presidency.

Re: Immigration

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:21 am
by Mori Chu
Nodack wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:19 am
Do you think FOX News will report this? If they do they will add the spin that it was because of the anticipated Trump Presidency.
They seem to have their messaging down to a science at this point. When the GOP is in charge, anything good that happens is due to Glorious Leader and Party. When the Dems are in the White House, if something good happens, it's either (a) fake news or (b) people are actually anticipating the return of Glorious Leader! If something bad happens, it is because of socialism, evil brown people, trans people, or wokeness. Pretty simple.

Re: Immigration

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 10:23 am
by Nodack
Yes, we have all seen this and got a kick out of how gullible people are. Texas freezes and power goes off? Their Governor- It’s the Dems and their windmills that did it. Experts- Texas is too cheap to insulate their power grid against the cold and only a smidge of their power comes from windmills that work in cold climates just fine. Texas gets hot and the power goes off? Texas Governor- We will find those responsible and hold them accountable.

Texas doesn’t like taxes. They are the only state that has their own power grid completely unconnected to the rest of the nation. They are too cheap to upgrade their infrastructure. Whenever weather shuts down the power, the governor goes on his blame game tour when he knows exactly why the grid failed and knows it will fail again.

Re: Immigration

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 6:13 am
by Mori Chu
This is good, right? Was the border a disaster under Trump?


Re: Immigration

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:10 am
by Nodack
Fifth consecutive monthly drop and below Trumps numbers when he left? That can’t be true. Maga says it’s the worst ever.

Re: Immigration

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:14 am
by In2ition
Mori Chu wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2024 6:13 am
This is good, right? Was the border a disaster under Trump?

If you think gaslighting is going to work on people, than you must think that people are seriously dumb. They've only had a few good months, but are not acknowledging 3 historically terrible years? Smh

There is a 30,000 person caravan on it's way to the border right now, so what does that mean?

Re: Immigration

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:37 am
by Nodack
I can only see In2ition, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.

If you are responding to me, I don’t see the post and won’t try so, why bother? If you weren’t, then just ignore this post.

Re: Immigration

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:09 am
by In2ition
I'm on Mori's ignore list too? That's interesting if true.

Re: Immigration

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:10 am
by Mori Chu
In2ition wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:14 am
There is a 30,000 person caravan on it's way to the border right now, so what does that mean?
It's funny how a spooky caravan always approaches the border exactly around the time of an election.

Re: Immigration

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:11 am
by Mori Chu
In2ition wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:09 am
I'm on Mori's ignore list too? That's interesting if true.
No, I don't have you on ignore. I blast you for your takes sometimes but I appreciate your presence and posts here, friend.