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INFORMER wrote:

Ring_Wanted wrote:

iLLmatic wrote:Oh hey, Marc Gasol would look nice in a Suns uni..But we signed the Morrii...#teamfoe

That math is wrong. Their cap hold would have been bigger than the first year of the extension.

The cap hold is irrelevant.

To you, perhaps.

SDC wrote:

Gladiator wrote:The good thing is no-one's over reacting to a double-overtime loss on the road to a very good team.

i think it's beginning to dawn on some here that the celebrated brandon wright trade did little...

SDC wrote:i wonder if bryan colangelo can be lured back to phx?

Bryan had his own share of screw-ups. He got the ball rolling on the perpetual draft mismanagement.

Shabazz wrote: Aaron Brooks - basic passing skills + $6M of salary = IT3.

I would take Isaiah Thomas any day over the Aaron Brooks that donned a Suns uniform.

LazarusLong wrote:I should have suspected that the f-wad Babby has his grubby fingerprints on the mess.
He's a blathering tool.

Thank you.

INFORMER wrote:

Gladiator wrote:

INFORMER wrote:

Aztec Sunsfan wrote:Thomas in the post game interview:

"That's not why we lose this game"

Tucker said the same thing the last game.

Inf, I may be wrong but I think that was written as a joke before the post-game stuff had happened.

I hope you're right.

He is.

INFORMER wrote:

Shabazz wrote: Aaron Brooks - basic passing skills + $6M of salary = IT3.

I would take Isaiah Thomas any day over the Aaron Brooks that donned a Suns uniform.

It was a bit of an exaggerations, but take a look at Brooks' MIP year vs. IT's last season. Pretty similar.

EDC: Thanks for posting those videos!

Green's chucking can be better managed with the RIGHT point guard, while your PG chucking the ball is detrimental to the entire offense, so I also would vote for keeping Green.

Wally_West wrote:What about this?

Pacers get: Isaiah Thomas and Miles Plumlee.

Suns get: David West.
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/6553643

Real Gm trade checker says it works salary wise.

fixed that for you

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/6554171

if the suns trade plumlee, then the suns will be left with one center. neither wright nor west are centers.

Aztec Sunsfan wrote:Green's chucking can be better managed with the RIGHT point guard, while your PG chucking the ball is detrimental to the entire offense, so I also would vote for keeping Green.

I think that's exactly it. By being a chucker, Green is staying more or less within his proper role. IT is not.

INFORMER wrote:

SDC wrote:i wonder if bryan colangelo can be lured back to phx?

Bryan had his own share of screw-ups. He got the ball rolling on the perpetual draft mismanagement.

Tough to blame Colangelo when the coach refuses to play rookies or young players. I wish they had overriden D'antoni but it would have been tough given the streak of success we were having. It wasn't like we were losing or a .500 club.

Dan H wrote:

INFORMER wrote:

SDC wrote:i wonder if bryan colangelo can be lured back to phx?

Bryan had his own share of screw-ups. He got the ball rolling on the perpetual draft mismanagement.

Tough to blame Colangelo when the coach refuses to play rookies or young players. I wish they had overriden D'antoni but it would have been tough given the streak of success we were having. It wasn't like we were losing or a .500 club.

You wish they would have told him who to play and how much?

MikeD got full of himself and his style and probably tried to win every game possible to prove himself right, rather than holding his guys back on minutes or developing talent and sacrificing games. Pop doesn't need to win 60 games every year to prove anything.

And once BC left and Kerr was installed, MikeD got extra paranoid and sensitive about any suggestions to his coaching or style of play.

Indy wrote:

Dan H wrote:

INFORMER wrote:

SDC wrote:i wonder if bryan colangelo can be lured back to phx?

Bryan had his own share of screw-ups. He got the ball rolling on the perpetual draft mismanagement.

Tough to blame Colangelo when the coach refuses to play rookies or young players. I wish they had overriden D'antoni but it would have been tough given the streak of success we were having. It wasn't like we were losing or a .500 club.

You wish they would have told him who to play and how much?

I think at some point a GM has to stand his ground and tell a coach he's not mortgaging the future because the coach likes to run a veteran 7-man rotation.

Fair, but that means you find a new coach. You don't waste your future by trading away draft picks like they are unwanted step kids.

That would have been tough to stomach with the level of success they'd had. I think in hindsight both parties wish they'd done things differently. Some young developing talent added to the SSOL group? I mean, can you imagine? Sheesh.

Looking back we traded guys like Nate Robinson, Rondo, and Luol Deng. We could have had Igudola, Al Jefferson, Anderson Varejao, Monta Ellis, Paul Milsapp, etc.

Maybe none of them have turned into world-beaters, but could they have put the Nash/Amare/Marion teams over the top? Oh, hell yeah. Even with losing JJ.

Dan H wrote:

INFORMER wrote:

SDC wrote:i wonder if bryan colangelo can be lured back to phx?

Bryan had his own share of screw-ups. He got the ball rolling on the perpetual draft mismanagement.

Tough to blame Colangelo when the coach refuses to play rookies or young players. I wish they had overriden D'antoni but it would have been tough given the streak of success we were having. It wasn't like we were losing or a .500 club.

Your chronology is off. D'Antoni and BC only overlapped for 2 drafts, the first of which came after D'Antoni had completed half a season as coach, and was pre-Nash. D'Antoni spent that entire half season playing young guys and certainly didn't have the cache to force his GM to not pick players. BC thought Deng and Iggy would be gone by their pick and stupidly traded the pick without preconditions of them being available.

The next draft, 2005, we packaged the Nate Rob pick with Q-Rich for Kurt Thomas. That wasn't a bad trade. The 30th pick in that draft, which was originally ours, was acquired originally by the Spurs in the trade for Barbosa - pre-D'Antoni.

By the 2006 draft (the Rondo one), BC had already resigned.

Not much history or evidence of Mean Mike D'Antoni forcing poor BC to trade away draft picks because he refused to play them.

As GMs come and go, Bryan was OK. I believe he once won Exec of the Year.

Of course, Joe Dumars was supposedly the best basketball exec on the planet until he drafted future kickboxer Darko, and then his rep came apart faster than a pair of Payless sneakers ...

Hey, don't know Payless sneakers. That's all we could afford growing up. They served me well.

Well, I did blow out my ligaments in my ankle, but I am sure that wasn't related.