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Re: Game Day: Suns (6-14) @ Jazz (13-9), Tues 12/6/16

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:33 pm
by EDC
How much longer till the front office gives up on the playoffs? Hopefully it is soon.

Re: Game Day: Suns (6-14) @ Jazz (13-9), Tues 12/6/16

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:38 pm
by specialsauce
djy2j wrote:And Knight seals it by dribbling to exactly the spot Gobert was standing and tries shooting it over him
of all his faults, the one that seals it is the fact that he is a fucking moron.

Re: Game Day: Suns (6-14) @ Jazz (13-9), Tues 12/6/16

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:44 pm
by AmareIsGod
There's always next year! It's been a motto that's kept me a Suns fan since birth.

Re: RE: Re: Game Day: Suns (6-14) @ Jazz (13-9), Tues 12/6/16

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:57 pm
by carey
AmareIsGod wrote:There's always next year! It's been a motto that's kept me a Suns fan since birth.
Worked for the Cubs and Red Sox.

Re: Game Day: Suns (6-14) @ Jazz (13-9), Tues 12/6/16

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:34 pm
by UglyTruth
AmareIsGod wrote:There's always next year! It's been a motto that's kept me a Suns fan since birth.
Brandon Knight will have to retire some day right? Keep up the hope.

Re: Game Day: Suns (6-14) @ Jazz (13-9), Tues 12/6/16

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:05 am
by Superbone
Quite the comeback to tie it up. Knight's go ahead basket just rolled off the rim. I'm still not sure how we did it. The Jazz play on a whole different level than us. Screens and back cuts and unselfish basketball.

Re: Game Day: Suns (6-14) @ Jazz (13-9), Tues 12/6/16

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:02 am
by UglyTruth
I don't get how the Jazz were the ones playing on the 2nd night of a back to back from a close game the night before and yet the Suns are the ones that lacked the energy to start off the game were down 20 at half?

On a side note, I feel like the Suns must be league leaders in most pts scored in garbage time. We've made huge comebacks quite a bit in garbage time this season, sort of surprising.

Re: Game Day: Suns (6-14) @ Jazz (13-9), Tues 12/6/16

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:42 am
by Indy
UglyTruth wrote:I don't get how the Jazz were the ones playing on the 2nd night of a back to back from a close game the night before and yet the Suns are the ones that lacked the energy to start off the game were down 20 at half?

On a side note, I feel like the Suns must be league leaders in most pts scored in garbage time. We've made huge comebacks quite a bit in garbage time this season, sort of surprising.
And I would bet a majority of Booker's points come this way.

Re: Game Day: Suns (6-14) @ Jazz (13-9), Tues 12/6/16

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:44 am
by Mori Chu
It was nice to see them come back at least, though they shouldn't have been down by so much to begin with. At least Bender got 28 minutes. Sadly he only put up 3 points on 1-5 shooting, so Coach may still not trust him in future games.

Re: Game Day: Suns (6-14) @ Jazz (13-9), Tues 12/6/16

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:05 am
by Nodack
Knight and Barbosa were huge part of that comeback and both lost their mojo as soon as we tied it up.

Re: Game Day: Suns (6-14) @ Jazz (13-9), Tues 12/6/16

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:40 am
by Cap
Indy wrote:
UglyTruth wrote:I don't get how the Jazz were the ones playing on the 2nd night of a back to back from a close game the night before and yet the Suns are the ones that lacked the energy to start off the game were down 20 at half?

On a side note, I feel like the Suns must be league leaders in most pts scored in garbage time. We've made huge comebacks quite a bit in garbage time this season, sort of surprising.
And I would bet a majority of Booker's points come this way.
And Bender's +/-.

Bender, Williams, Ulis, Jenkins and Jones are the only Suns with positive +/-.

Re: Game Day: Suns (6-14) @ Jazz (13-9), Tues 12/6/16

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:31 am
by Shabazz
UglyTruth wrote:I don't get how the Jazz were the ones playing on the 2nd night of a back to back from a close game the night before and yet the Suns are the ones that lacked the energy to start off the game were down 20 at half?

On a side note, I feel like the Suns must be league leaders in most pts scored in garbage time. We've made huge comebacks quite a bit in garbage time this season, sort of surprising.
Another stat guess: PJ Tucker leads the league in stepping-out-of-bounds-when-he's-about-to-shoot-a-corner-3 per 36 minutes.

Re: Game Day: Suns (6-14) @ Jazz (13-9), Tues 12/6/16

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:22 pm
by carey
Shabazz wrote:Another stat guess: PJ Tucker leads the league in stepping-out-of-bounds-when-he's-about-to-shoot-a-corner-3 per 36 minutes.
Bledsoe leads in stepping out along the baseline.

Re: Game Day: Suns (6-14) @ Jazz (13-9), Tues 12/6/16

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:22 pm
by Ring_Wanted
carey wrote:
Shabazz wrote:Another stat guess: PJ Tucker leads the league in stepping-out-of-bounds-when-he's-about-to-shoot-a-corner-3 per 36 minutes.
Bledsoe leads in stepping out along the baseline.
Chandler and Len lead in defending with their eyes.

Re: Game Day: Suns (6-14) @ Jazz (13-9), Tues 12/6/16

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:27 am
by Indy
Ring_Wanted wrote:
carey wrote:
Shabazz wrote:Another stat guess: PJ Tucker leads the league in stepping-out-of-bounds-when-he's-about-to-shoot-a-corner-3 per 36 minutes.
Bledsoe leads in stepping out along the baseline.
Chandler and Len lead in defending with their eyes.
Knight leads in highest rate of unassisted shot attempts and lowest rate of assists per touch.

Re: Game Day: Suns (6-14) @ Jazz (13-9), Tues 12/6/16

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:35 am
by In2ition
Indy wrote:
Ring_Wanted wrote:
carey wrote:
Shabazz wrote:Another stat guess: PJ Tucker leads the league in stepping-out-of-bounds-when-he's-about-to-shoot-a-corner-3 per 36 minutes.
Bledsoe leads in stepping out along the baseline.
Chandler and Len lead in defending with their eyes.
Knight leads in highest rate of unassisted shot attempts and lowest rate of assists per touch.
Talk about taking your role as a microwave off the bench nearly literal. Knight, "Coach said that I'm supposed to come off the bench to score, so that means I need to take shots, dribble to create my shots, and screw everyone else, that's my role."

Re: Game Day: Suns (6-14) @ Jazz (13-9), Tues 12/6/16

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:54 am
by LazarusLong
A recent observation from Zach Lowe. It's probably appeared elsewhere on this site, but it bears repeating:

"The evidence is piling up that Knight doesn't quite have the feel to be a lead guard -- the wayward lobs to a moping Tyson Chandler, bounce passes that miss their target or hit people in the feet, and barfy pull-up jumpers early in the shot clock. Knight isn't big enough to start on the wing, which means he's probably living out his destiny as a score-first sixth man in the Jamal Crawford lineage. He just has to you, you know, score."

Jamal Crawford or Tony Delk ....

Re: Game Day: Suns (6-14) @ Jazz (13-9), Tues 12/6/16

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:36 pm
by ShelC
What was the verdict on him when he was starting for the Bucks and averaging 18 and 6 with 40% from 3 and they were 28 and 23 before the trade? We've made him look phenomenally bad. Not saying he's Steph Curry, but we've never put him in a position to be successful.

Re: Game Day: Suns (6-14) @ Jazz (13-9), Tues 12/6/16

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:44 pm
by Indy
ShelC wrote:What was the verdict on him when he was starting for the Bucks and averaging 18 and 6 with 40% from 3 and they were 28 and 23 before the trade? We've made him look phenomenally bad. Not saying he's Steph Curry, but we've never put him in a position to be successful.
I think he can be successful when he has plenty of minutes and is the primary ball handler. Just maybe his team can't be.

Re: Game Day: Suns (6-14) @ Jazz (13-9), Tues 12/6/16

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:59 pm
by Split T
I think he might flourish in a situation where he is not the primary scoring option or primary playmaker. He'd still have the ball in his hand often and plays would be run for him, but pairing him with a playmaking wing and a scoring big man would take the load off. The 76ers would be a really good spot for him. Embiid and Okafor are big and can score and will be the focus of the defense, while Simmons(when healthy) and Saric are playmaking forwards that would take pressure off Knight creating for everyone.

Not sure why he was so much more successful in Milwaukee than he has been here. Middleton, Giannis, and Jabari were all very talented, but very young. They all are skilled basketball players that can dribble, pass, and shoot though. We haven't exactly filled out our roster with skilled basketball players.