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Superbone wrote:

carey wrote:This is the worst Suns team since I became a fan in 1992, and it isn't even close.

Come on now. Have already forgotten about the Michael Beasley years?

That team was unlikable and fairly bad at basketball. This team is just fundamentally awful aside from 2 players. For Christ's sake we started Monroe & Chandler last night and wonder how we were down almost 30 by halftime. What happened to the defined roles and accountability that Triano promised?

Were not bad enough. I need us to be worse, or significantly better. If we get a 6th-14th pick, I'll be very upset.

specialsauce wrote:Were not bad enough. I need us to be worse, or significantly better. If we get a 6th-14th pick, I'll be very upset.

Basketball-Reference.com projects the worst teams as -

Chicago - 21-61
Phoenix - 24-58
Sacramento - 25-57
Dallas - 29-53
Atlanta - 30-52

And FiveThirtyEight.com predicts them as -

Chicago - 22-60
Sacramento - 23-59
Atlanta - 24-58
Phoenix 25-57
Dallas - 27-55

I think we're probably the 5th worst team. Let's just hope this is the year we finally jump into the top 3. I feel really good about Doncic, Ayton, and Bagley

Gladiator wrote:

carey wrote:Booker just notched his 3rd straight game of shooting 33% or less from the field. Something is up with him and I'm not sure it's entirely just that no one else can score consistently.

I think it's because no one else can shoot consistently from outside. I mean that starting line-up had no other outside threats apart from him, so you don't really need to defend anyone else on the perimeter.

true. and it's not just the starting lineup.

Have already forgotten about the M****** B****** years?

SB, i need to buy a few vowels. can you help me out?

Assists 29 TO 12!

Point guard anyone? Anyone?

1tinsoldier wrote:

Gladiator wrote:

carey wrote:Booker just notched his 3rd straight game of shooting 33% or less from the field. Something is up with him and I'm not sure it's entirely just that no one else can score consistently.

I think it's because no one else can shoot consistently from outside. I mean that starting line-up had no other outside threats apart from him, so you don't really need to defend anyone else on the perimeter.

true. and it's not just the starting lineup.

Have already forgotten about the M****** B****** years?

SB, i need to buy a few vowels. can you help me out?

Mike Beaslee, I am assuming...

The Suns have four players making $10 million+. Knight, who is basically untradable right now, Dudley, Chandler and Monroe.

Monroe I can understand keeping since he's got an expiring contract. Dudley and Chandler need to me moved for whatever they can get, as long as they're getting expiring contracts in return. There is not really much point to having them here taking up minutes. This team is going nowhere fast.

Dudley's part of the future, either as coach or FO exec. He should be a lifer here.

Split T wrote:I think we're probably the 5th worst team. Let's just hope this is the year we finally jump into the top 3. I feel really good about Doncic, Ayton, and Bagley

That would put us picking about 7.

JCSunsfan wrote:

Split T wrote:I think we're probably the 5th worst team. Let's just hope this is the year we finally jump into the top 3. I feel really good about Doncic, Ayton, and Bagley

That would put us picking about 7.

You think two teams below us are going to jump us in the lottery? I don't know the exact odds, but I'd guess something like 30% top 3, 40% 5th, 25% 6th, and 5% 7th

Edit: looked it up

30% top 3
26% 5th
36% 6th
8% 7th

LazarusLong wrote:

The Bobster wrote:

Split T wrote:

carey wrote:This is the worst Suns team since I became a fan in 1992, and it isn't even close.

I think we're about equal with last year's team and 2015-2016. 2012-2013 was really bad too.

This is probably the worst team since I've been a fan [1975-76], so basically the expansion year. And their point differential is about the same as that 16-66 team.

Other than a lack of shooters, a lack of distributers, and no adults at the 4, it's a wonderful team.

The smartest player is a zaftig Jared Dudley.

Ha ha. Had to look up zaftig.

azsportsfan wrote:

1tinsoldier wrote:

Have already forgotten about the M****** B****** years?

SB, i need to buy a few vowels. can you help me out?

Mike Beaslee, I am assuming...

Yes. I didn't censor it, tin. The site does.

Split T wrote:

JCSunsfan wrote:

Split T wrote:I think we're probably the 5th worst team. Let's just hope this is the year we finally jump into the top 3. I feel really good about Doncic, Ayton, and Bagley

That would put us picking about 7.

You think two teams below us are going to jump us in the lottery? I don't know the exact odds, but I'd guess something like 30% top 3, 40% 5th, 25% 6th, and 5% 7th

Edit: looked it up

30% top 3
26% 5th
36% 6th
8% 7th

I think JC was just referring to the Suns luck of never moving up and always moving down in the draft.

Superbone wrote:

LazarusLong wrote:

The Bobster wrote:

Split T wrote:

carey wrote:This is the worst Suns team since I became a fan in 1992, and it isn't even close.

I think we're about equal with last year's team and 2015-2016. 2012-2013 was really bad too.

This is probably the worst team since I've been a fan [1975-76], so basically the expansion year. And their point differential is about the same as that 16-66 team.

Other than a lack of shooters, a lack of distributers, and no adults at the 4, it's a wonderful team.

The smartest player is a zaftig Jared Dudley.

Ha ha. Had to look up zaftig.

For a moment there I thought it was just me who was lost on the description. That's not the first time Laz has made me Google something

I'm not fat. I'm pleasantly plump.

I like to think of suns.net as a learning experience, as well as entertaining ...

Superbone wrote:

azsportsfan wrote:

1tinsoldier wrote:

Have already forgotten about the M****** B****** years?

SB, i need to buy a few vowels. can you help me out?

Mike Beaslee, I am assuming...

Yes. I didn't censor it, tin. The site does.

no, Mike Beaslee shows, so that's not it.

Mario Bennett?

damn, wrong again

Marcin Bortat?