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Re: Game Day: Suns (13-23) @ Kings (12-22), Fri 12/29/17

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:16 pm
by Superbone
Man, some terrible officiating at the end of this game. The ref just lets Koufas waltz into the lane after the first FT. Then the ref swallows his whistle when Chandler was obviously fouled by Randolph.

Re: Game Day: Suns (13-23) @ Kings (12-22), Fri 12/29/17

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:16 pm
by Split T
iLLmatic wrote:
Split T wrote:Bogdan is a fine player, he's better all around than Daniels, but I'm glad we're not paying him 12 million a year. He's not as good a player as Warren, who got the same yearly salary.
Both teams suck. The salary cap is going up again, what difference does it make? Neither team is getting a cornerstone FA.
I don't think paying 12 million a year for a backup sg is good strategy for a bad team.

Re: Game Day: Suns (13-23) @ Kings (12-22), Fri 12/29/17

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:17 pm
by iLLmatic
Superbone wrote:Man, some terrible officiating at the end of this game. The ref just lets Koufas waltz into the lane after the first FT. Then the ref swallows his whistle when Chandler was obviously fouled by Randolph.
Agreed.

Re: Game Day: Suns (13-23) @ Kings (12-22), Fri 12/29/17

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:21 pm
by carey
Booker can't shoot for shit all night then makes the last 11 Suns points to close out the game.

Re: Game Day: Suns (13-23) @ Kings (12-22), Fri 12/29/17

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:21 pm
by The Bobster
I'm sorry, but T.J. Warren (12 for 18) was much, much better tonight thank Booker (9 for 25).

And the real reason the Suns won was that Sacramento could't score down the stretch.

Re: Game Day: Suns (13-23) @ Kings (12-22), Fri 12/29/17

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:21 pm
by iLLmatic
Split T wrote:
iLLmatic wrote:
Split T wrote:Bogdan is a fine player, he's better all around than Daniels, but I'm glad we're not paying him 12 million a year. He's not as good a player as Warren, who got the same yearly salary.
Both teams suck. The salary cap is going up again, what difference does it make? Neither team is getting a cornerstone FA.
I don't think paying 12 million a year for a backup sg is good strategy for a bad team.

Accumulating talent is a good strategy for a bad team though. That contract isn't terrible and it will get better as the cap continues to increase.

Re: Game Day: Suns (13-23) @ Kings (12-22), Fri 12/29/17

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:22 pm
by bajanguy008
Marquese with such a good game tonight may I even say great. just all over the glass and it is no small feat keeping savvy Z-Bo in check

Re: Game Day: Suns (13-23) @ Kings (12-22), Fri 12/29/17

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:22 pm
by iLLmatic
carey wrote:Booker can't shoot for s*** all night then makes the last 11 Suns points to close out the game.
He's a star. I'm glad we have him on our team and he wants to stay.

Re: Game Day: Suns (13-23) @ Kings (12-22), Fri 12/29/17

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:24 pm
by bajanguy008
The Bobster wrote:I'm sorry, but T.J. Warren (12 for 18) was much, much better tonight thank Booker (9 for 25).

And the real reason the Suns won was that Sacramento could't score down the stretch.
yea wasn't fussy with Devin basically not looking to pass at all for the last two mins. I know he was frustrated and really wanted to bury them but he took some bad shots late

Re: Game Day: Suns (13-23) @ Kings (12-22), Fri 12/29/17

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:24 pm
by iLLmatic
Split T wrote:
iLLmatic wrote:
Split T wrote:Bogdan is a fine player, he's better all around than Daniels, but I'm glad we're not paying him 12 million a year. He's not as good a player as Warren, who got the same yearly salary.
Both teams suck. The salary cap is going up again, what difference does it make? Neither team is getting a cornerstone FA.
I don't think paying 12 million a year for a backup sg is good strategy for a bad team.
Also, BB will not be a backup for long. Just a feeling.

Re: Game Day: Suns (13-23) @ Kings (12-22), Fri 12/29/17

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:27 pm
by specialsauce
Split T wrote:
iLLmatic wrote:
Split T wrote:Bogdan is a fine player, he's better all around than Daniels, but I'm glad we're not paying him 12 million a year. He's not as good a player as Warren, who got the same yearly salary.
Both teams suck. The salary cap is going up again, what difference does it make? Neither team is getting a cornerstone FA.
I don't think paying 12 million a year for a backup sg is good strategy for a bad team.

But it’s a good strategy to pay a backup SF 12 million and then start him?

Re: Game Day: Suns (13-23) @ Kings (12-22), Fri 12/29/17

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:27 pm
by Superbone
iLLmatic wrote:Booker is cold.
Cold blooded. I knew even when we were down four late that we were going to win this game. The Suns and especially Booker are becoming good at closing out games. Plus, we're just a better team than the Kings.

Re: Game Day: Suns (13-23) @ Kings (12-22), Fri 12/29/17

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:30 pm
by iLLmatic
Superbone wrote:
iLLmatic wrote:Booker is cold.
Cold blooded. I knew even when we were down four late that we were going to win this game. The Suns and especially Booker are becoming good at closing out games. Plus, we're just a better team than the Kings.
Draft position be damned I'm enjoying watching the young guys win. I'd like to explore keeping Triano as the HC.

Re: Game Day: Suns (13-23) @ Kings (12-22), Fri 12/29/17

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:31 pm
by Superbone
The Bobster wrote:I'm sorry, but T.J. Warren (12 for 18) was much, much better tonight thank Booker (9 for 25).

And the real reason the Suns won was that Sacramento could't score down the stretch.
Nothing to be sorry for. Booker had a rough game...that is until it became "winning time." Then he was unstoppable.

Re: Game Day: Suns (13-23) @ Kings (12-22), Fri 12/29/17

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:39 pm
by Superbone
iLLmatic wrote:
Superbone wrote:
iLLmatic wrote:Booker is cold.
Cold blooded. I knew even when we were down four late that we were going to win this game. The Suns and especially Booker are becoming good at closing out games. Plus, we're just a better team than the Kings.
Draft position be damned I'm enjoying watching the young guys win. I'd like to explore keeping Triano as the HC.
Agreed. However our schedule has been pretty soft lately. I expect some rough times ahead. We haven't even played the Warriors yet and we've only played the Rockets once so far.

Re: Game Day: Suns (13-23) @ Kings (12-22), Fri 12/29/17

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:42 pm
by bajanguy008
https://twitter.com/TheMattPetersen/status/946976654437515265 Yes you have to take into account the opponents but hey Suns winning 5 of 7 is such a strange tweet to see :) :oops:

Re: Game Day: Suns (13-23) @ Kings (12-22), Fri 12/29/17

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:42 pm
by Split T
specialsauce wrote:
Split T wrote:
iLLmatic wrote:
Split T wrote:Bogdan is a fine player, he's better all around than Daniels, but I'm glad we're not paying him 12 million a year. He's not as good a player as Warren, who got the same yearly salary.
Both teams suck. The salary cap is going up again, what difference does it make? Neither team is getting a cornerstone FA.
I don't think paying 12 million a year for a backup sg is good strategy for a bad team.

But it’s a good strategy to pay a backup SF 12 million and then start him?
:roll:

Re: Game Day: Suns (13-23) @ Kings (12-22), Fri 12/29/17

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:45 pm
by bajanguy008
Superbone wrote:
iLLmatic wrote:
Superbone wrote:
iLLmatic wrote:Booker is cold.
Cold blooded. I knew even when we were down four late that we were going to win this game. The Suns and especially Booker are becoming good at closing out games. Plus, we're just a better team than the Kings.
Draft position be damned I'm enjoying watching the young guys win. I'd like to explore keeping Triano as the HC.
Agreed. However our schedule has been pretty soft lately. I expect some rough times ahead. We haven't even played the Warriors yet and we've only played the Rockets once so far.
Yea The Awful Truth but hey ya beat the bad teams, be competitive with the good teams and eventually learn to beat them

Re: Game Day: Suns (13-23) @ Kings (12-22), Fri 12/29/17

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:45 pm
by Split T
iLLmatic wrote:
Split T wrote:
iLLmatic wrote:
Split T wrote:Bogdan is a fine player, he's better all around than Daniels, but I'm glad we're not paying him 12 million a year. He's not as good a player as Warren, who got the same yearly salary.
Both teams suck. The salary cap is going up again, what difference does it make? Neither team is getting a cornerstone FA.
I don't think paying 12 million a year for a backup sg is good strategy for a bad team.

Accumulating talent is a good strategy for a bad team though. That contract isn't terrible and it will get better as the cap continues to increase.
I'd rather use that money elsewhere. I don't have an issue with people liking Bogdan. But I don't have any regrets trading him.

Re: Game Day: Suns (13-23) @ Kings (12-22), Fri 12/29/17

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:51 pm
by 1tinsoldier
Superbone wrote:
iLLmatic wrote:
Superbone wrote:
iLLmatic wrote:Booker is cold.
Cold blooded. I knew even when we were down four late that we were going to win this game. The Suns and especially Booker are becoming good at closing out games. Plus, we're just a better team than the Kings.
Draft position be damned I'm enjoying watching the young guys win. I'd like to explore keeping Triano as the HC.
Agreed. However our schedule has been pretty soft lately. I expect some rough times ahead. We haven't even played the Warriors yet and we've only played the Rockets once so far.
i agree that our schedule has been soft
i disagree about keeping Triano because he's also been soft
he seems like a nice guy
retain him as assistant
i don't want any more nice guy coaches
i want a hard ass, but that the team still respects

Triano has definitely made improvements
improvement is what we need this year
but when it comes time to make our move
we need a coach with balls who gets excited on the sidelines
and kicks ass when it's called for