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Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/2-4/11

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:42 am
by Hermen
The OKC - Memphis game on Wednesday should be hilarious. Westbrook supposedly needs 16 rebounds (read on reddit, didn't fact check) in order to average another tripple double for the season. Today he had 18 against Miami, Adams had 3 in 31 minutes. That team isn't serious.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/2-4/11

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:41 am
by Ring_Wanted
Hermen wrote:The OKC - Memphis game on Wednesday should be hilarious. Westbrook supposedly needs 16 rebounds (read on reddit, didn't fact check) in order to average another tripple double for the season. Today he had 18 against Miami, Adams had 3 in 31 minutes. That team isn't serious.
Meh. Nobody will care how he got it. Wilt was fed specifically to pursue his 100. Others too, like David Robinson for his scoring title. Even Booker's 70.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/2-4/11

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:54 am
by Indy
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Hermen wrote:The OKC - Memphis game on Wednesday should be hilarious. Westbrook supposedly needs 16 rebounds (read on reddit, didn't fact check) in order to average another tripple double for the season. Today he had 18 against Miami, Adams had 3 in 31 minutes. That team isn't serious.
Meh. Nobody will care how he got it. Wilt was fed specifically to pursue his 100. Others too, like David Robinson for his scoring title. Even Booker's 70.
Exactly. Which year was it that two guys were neck and neck for the scoring title and their teams just fed them over and over and over the last game to see who would get it? These things happen all the time, and people will simply remember he had consecutive triple double years. The fact that he is 18 rebounds away, after 81 games, is already amazing.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/2-4/11

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:35 am
by Hermen
Indy wrote:
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Hermen wrote:The OKC - Memphis game on Wednesday should be hilarious. Westbrook supposedly needs 16 rebounds (read on reddit, didn't fact check) in order to average another tripple double for the season. Today he had 18 against Miami, Adams had 3 in 31 minutes. That team isn't serious.
Meh. Nobody will care how he got it. Wilt was fed specifically to pursue his 100. Others too, like David Robinson for his scoring title. Even Booker's 70.
Exactly. Which year was it that two guys were neck and neck for the scoring title and their teams just fed them over and over and over the last game to see who would get it? These things happen all the time, and people will simply remember he had consecutive triple double years. The fact that he is 18 rebounds away, after 81 games, is already amazing.
I think his stat chasing is bad for the team. For example (the first that came to my mind) I looked at the number of contested shots per 36 minutes for players with at least 30 games played. The only player behind Westbrook (3.4 contestend shots) is Jamal Crawford (2.8). Defensive stalwart James Harden contests more than twice as many shoots at 7.7. In addition to Crawford there are 5 more centers that contest fewer 3 pointers than Westbrook, which makes sense since they protect the rim, but they are bad defenders anyway (Monroe, Lauvergne, Chandler).

By the way, Bender contests a lot of 3 pointers.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/2-4/11

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:41 am
by In2ition
Hermen wrote:
Indy wrote:
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Hermen wrote:The OKC - Memphis game on Wednesday should be hilarious. Westbrook supposedly needs 16 rebounds (read on reddit, didn't fact check) in order to average another tripple double for the season. Today he had 18 against Miami, Adams had 3 in 31 minutes. That team isn't serious.
Meh. Nobody will care how he got it. Wilt was fed specifically to pursue his 100. Others too, like David Robinson for his scoring title. Even Booker's 70.
Exactly. Which year was it that two guys were neck and neck for the scoring title and their teams just fed them over and over and over the last game to see who would get it? These things happen all the time, and people will simply remember he had consecutive triple double years. The fact that he is 18 rebounds away, after 81 games, is already amazing.
I think his stat chasing is bad for the team. For example (the first that came to my mind) I looked at the number of contested shots per 36 minutes for players with at least 30 games played. The only player behind Westbrook (3.4 contestend shots) is Jamal Crawford (2.8). Defensive stalwart James Harden contests more than twice as many shoots at 7.7. In addition to Crawford there are 5 more centers that contest fewer 3 pointers than Westbrook, which makes sense since they protect the rim, but they are bad defenders anyway (Monroe, Lauvergne, Chandler).

By the way, Bender contests a lot of 3 pointers.
This made me laugh. Yeah, Bender is picked on a lot on switches. Hopefully he turns the corner and starts to make them pay for switching next year.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/2-4/11

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:48 am
by Indy
Hermen wrote:
Indy wrote:
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Hermen wrote:The OKC - Memphis game on Wednesday should be hilarious. Westbrook supposedly needs 16 rebounds (read on reddit, didn't fact check) in order to average another tripple double for the season. Today he had 18 against Miami, Adams had 3 in 31 minutes. That team isn't serious.
Meh. Nobody will care how he got it. Wilt was fed specifically to pursue his 100. Others too, like David Robinson for his scoring title. Even Booker's 70.
Exactly. Which year was it that two guys were neck and neck for the scoring title and their teams just fed them over and over and over the last game to see who would get it? These things happen all the time, and people will simply remember he had consecutive triple double years. The fact that he is 18 rebounds away, after 81 games, is already amazing.
I think his stat chasing is bad for the team. For example (the first that came to my mind) I looked at the number of contested shots per 36 minutes for players with at least 30 games played. The only player behind Westbrook (3.4 contestend shots) is Jamal Crawford (2.8). Defensive stalwart James Harden contests more than twice as many shoots at 7.7. In addition to Crawford there are 5 more centers that contest fewer 3 pointers than Westbrook, which makes sense since they protect the rim, but they are bad defenders anyway (Monroe, Lauvergne, Chandler).

By the way, Bender contests a lot of 3 pointers.
Do you mean he is driving the morale lower, or he is hurting OKC in W/L?

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/2-4/11

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:04 am
by Cap
Indy wrote:
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Hermen wrote:The OKC - Memphis game on Wednesday should be hilarious. Westbrook supposedly needs 16 rebounds (read on reddit, didn't fact check) in order to average another tripple double for the season. Today he had 18 against Miami, Adams had 3 in 31 minutes. That team isn't serious.
Meh. Nobody will care how he got it. Wilt was fed specifically to pursue his 100. Others too, like David Robinson for his scoring title. Even Booker's 70.
Exactly. Which year was it that two guys were neck and neck for the scoring title and their teams just fed them over and over and over the last game to see who would get it?
George Gervin and David Thompson, 1978.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/2-4/11

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:41 am
by Indy
Thanks cap

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/2-4/11

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:53 am
by Hermen
Indy wrote:
Hermen wrote:
Indy wrote:
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Hermen wrote:The OKC - Memphis game on Wednesday should be hilarious. Westbrook supposedly needs 16 rebounds (read on reddit, didn't fact check) in order to average another tripple double for the season. Today he had 18 against Miami, Adams had 3 in 31 minutes. That team isn't serious.
Meh. Nobody will care how he got it. Wilt was fed specifically to pursue his 100. Others too, like David Robinson for his scoring title. Even Booker's 70.
Exactly. Which year was it that two guys were neck and neck for the scoring title and their teams just fed them over and over and over the last game to see who would get it? These things happen all the time, and people will simply remember he had consecutive triple double years. The fact that he is 18 rebounds away, after 81 games, is already amazing.
I think his stat chasing is bad for the team. For example (the first that came to my mind) I looked at the number of contested shots per 36 minutes for players with at least 30 games played. The only player behind Westbrook (3.4 contestend shots) is Jamal Crawford (2.8). Defensive stalwart James Harden contests more than twice as many shoots at 7.7. In addition to Crawford there are 5 more centers that contest fewer 3 pointers than Westbrook, which makes sense since they protect the rim, but they are bad defenders anyway (Monroe, Lauvergne, Chandler).

By the way, Bender contests a lot of 3 pointers.
Do you mean he is driving the morale lower, or he is hurting OKC in W/L?
I just meant they would be better if Westbrook wouldn't chase stats and the contested shots were meant to show that he leaves his man on defense to get rebounds.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/2-4/11

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:53 am
by Superbone
Hermen wrote:By the way, Bender contests a lot of 3 pointers.
That is laughable to me. He is always a step behind and rarely actually affects the shot.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/2-4/11

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:13 am
by Mori Chu
I hope Westbrook works his ass off, pushing teammates aside for every rebound, and ends up with 17. And that OKC loses the game.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/2-4/11

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:27 am
by Split T
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I hope Westbrook works his ass off, pushing teammates aside for every rebound, and ends up with 17. And that OKC loses the game.
He only needs 16, so I'm sure Westbrook would be fine with that

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/2-4/11

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:42 am
by The Bobster
Cap wrote:
Indy wrote:
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Hermen wrote:The OKC - Memphis game on Wednesday should be hilarious. Westbrook supposedly needs 16 rebounds (read on reddit, didn't fact check) in order to average another tripple double for the season. Today he had 18 against Miami, Adams had 3 in 31 minutes. That team isn't serious.
Meh. Nobody will care how he got it. Wilt was fed specifically to pursue his 100. Others too, like David Robinson for his scoring title. Even Booker's 70.
Exactly. Which year was it that two guys were neck and neck for the scoring title and their teams just fed them over and over and over the last game to see who would get it?
George Gervin and David Thompson, 1978.
http://www.nba.com/history/top-moments/ ... n-thompson

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/2-4/11

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:55 pm
by carey
Hate the Lakers but this is a cool story: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2310 ... les-lakers

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/2-4/11

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:50 pm
by Split T
carey wrote:Hate the Lakers but this is a cool story: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2310 ... les-lakers
And he went 4/5 from 3 and scored 19 points!

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/2-4/11

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:40 pm
by INFORMER
In2ition wrote: Yeah, I already gave up the dream, but hopefully it's for the best as McD didn't really want it this year anyway.
Yeah, why would we want it this year when there are actually a lot of really good players to choose from? :roll:

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/2-4/11

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:49 pm
by Split T
Split T wrote:
carey wrote:Hate the Lakers but this is a cool story: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2310 ... les-lakers
And he went 4/5 from 3 and scored 19 points!
How did this Andre Ingram guy not get a chance before now. Career 46% 3pt shooter in g league over 10 years, shot 55% last year, 48% this year. What's the difference between him and Troy Daniels?

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/2-4/11

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:53 am
by Indy
Split T wrote:
Split T wrote:
carey wrote:Hate the Lakers but this is a cool story: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2310 ... les-lakers
And he went 4/5 from 3 and scored 19 points!
How did this Andre Ingram guy not get a chance before now. Career 46% 3pt shooter in g league over 10 years, shot 55% last year, 48% this year. What's the difference between him and Troy Daniels?
1" and 6 years.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/2-4/11

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:54 am
by O_Gardino
Games to watch tonight:

Utah @ Portland - Winner gets the 3rd seed, loser is tied for 4th.
San Antonio @ New Orleans - Loser will be tied for the 8th seed, winner will be tied for the 4th.
Denver @ Minnesota - Winner gets in to the playoffs tied for 8th, loser goes home.

Milwaukee @ Philadelphia - 6ers need to won to hold onto the 3rd seed. Bucks need to win to hold onto the 6th seed. But maybe the Bucks just want to let this one go and get Boston in the first round.
Washington and Miami both play games in which the other team has no incentive to win. I expect both to win, but you never know.
OKC plays, and needs to win to wrap up the 6th spot, but I don't think they will have any trouble beating Memphis.

A total of 7 games and 11 teams with playoff seeding implications tonight.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/2-4/11

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:58 am
by O_Gardino
You guys still think Durant destroyed parity in the league?