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Re: Suns News: Week 3 10/29-11/4

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:50 pm
by Shabazz
Suns have to decide on Bender's 4th year option in the next day.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 10/29-11/4

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:11 pm
by JeremyG
The Bobster wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:07 pm
Wormwood wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:36 am
Weird thought... but why not make our starting line-up our best 5 guys?

That's Okobo, Booker, Bridges, Warren, and Ayton. Lots of shooting, spacing, scoring. Only 1 player really out of position (Warren). Our other PFs are kind of awful, and aren't giving us anything anyway.
God, the bench would be abysmal though!
The bench would basically consist of Josh Jackson..."trying to do it all"...like he likes to do lol.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 10/29-11/4

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:28 pm
by The Bobster
The Suns’ original owner, Richard Bloch, has passed away.



You might ask “Who’s Richard Block?” well, he was an owner who hired someone and let them do their job. He didn’t pretend to know how to be the GM. He just stayed in the background and when Colangelo looked to Bloch for more money to pick up some salary (Truck Robinson, Rich Kelley, James Edwards) Bloch just wrote the checks.

Sure would be nice to have someone like that as owner now.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 10/29-11/4

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:23 pm
by O_Gardino
In2ition wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:21 pm
The Bobster wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:09 pm
I think they need to make a move to pick up a decent to good starting PG and a PF with a pulse.

I don't know where that deal is at, but they need to go out and find it.
Dec. 15th. Suns trade for Love and Hill (my guess)
Love has this season at 24 million and 4 more seasons after this at 30 million per year. He is 30 now. Somebody is going to pay him 30 million dollars at the age of 34 in 2023.

Hill has this season at 19 million and next at 18 million. He is 32 now.

IINM, we would have to send out 43 million to bring them in. Anderson, Ariza, and Bender might be close enough. But you give up your cap space for this whole run. You would have to be super sure that those guys will turn us around.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 10/29-11/4

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:26 pm
by Split T
Hill only has 1million gauranteed next season. So it's essentially an expiring contract

Re: Suns News: Week 3 10/29-11/4

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:18 pm
by TOO
Shabazz wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:50 pm
Suns have to decide on Bender's 4th year option in the next day.
Benders option declined. So a draft that I hated because we picked 2 dudes who showed no real NBA skills yields us nothing. FANTASTIC.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 10/29-11/4

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:23 pm
by Split T
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:18 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:50 pm
Suns have to decide on Bender's 4th year option in the next day.
Benders option declined. So a draft that I hated because we picked 2 dudes who showed no real NBA skills yields us nothing. FANTASTIC.
I will say it yielded us less than most, but that draft still sucks. Both players were risks when we took them, but there was no obvious picks. Murray, Hield, or Sabonis would be nice, but I'm not upset that we took a chance. We swung and missed

Re: Suns News: Week 3 10/29-11/4

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:34 pm
by ShelC
I honestly would've trade out for a future pick. It was a really bad draft.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 10/29-11/4

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:45 pm
by Big Jake Little Jake
I remember watching games with Bender at Maccabi and he was literally just standing at the three point line most plays, occasially swinging it to the next open guy...just like he did here for three years. I had to assume all these professional scouts were seeing something we weren't able to see, like at practice or private workouts. Turns out, no, he's just that player. I held out hope he'd figure out a role, never expecting him to be dominant, but it just hasn't happened. Incredibly dissapointing draft and one we needed to nail. I get that we took two long shots on projects, but maybe next time pick the projects that have some actual drive in them.

Resurrect the big fat INF "F," it certainly seems correct now.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 10/29-11/4

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:46 pm
by TOO
Split T wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:23 pm
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:18 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:50 pm
Suns have to decide on Bender's 4th year option in the next day.
Benders option declined. So a draft that I hated because we picked 2 dudes who showed no real NBA skills yields us nothing. FANTASTIC.
I will say it yielded us less than most, but that draft still sucks. Both players were risks when we took them, but there was no obvious picks. Murray, Hield, or Sabonis would be nice, but I'm not upset that we took a chance. We swung and missed
Taking chances with a top 5 pick is stupid, taking chances with 2 top 10 picks is stupider. Just flat out awful. Hated it then, even more now because we're no closer to finding an answer at the 4 spot. Sigh.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 10/29-11/4

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:01 pm
by Split T
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:46 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:23 pm
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:18 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:50 pm
Suns have to decide on Bender's 4th year option in the next day.
Benders option declined. So a draft that I hated because we picked 2 dudes who showed no real NBA skills yields us nothing. FANTASTIC.
I will say it yielded us less than most, but that draft still sucks. Both players were risks when we took them, but there was no obvious picks. Murray, Hield, or Sabonis would be nice, but I'm not upset that we took a chance. We swung and missed
Taking chances with a top 5 pick is stupid, taking chances with 2 top 10 picks is stupider. Just flat out awful. Hated it then, even more now because we're no closer to finding an answer at the 4 spot. Sigh.
Who would you have picked?

Re: Suns News: Week 3 10/29-11/4

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:23 pm
by AmareIsGod
Split T wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:01 pm
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:46 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:23 pm
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:18 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:50 pm
Suns have to decide on Bender's 4th year option in the next day.
Benders option declined. So a draft that I hated because we picked 2 dudes who showed no real NBA skills yields us nothing. FANTASTIC.
I will say it yielded us less than most, but that draft still sucks. Both players were risks when we took them, but there was no obvious picks. Murray, Hield, or Sabonis would be nice, but I'm not upset that we took a chance. We swung and missed
Taking chances with a top 5 pick is stupid, taking chances with 2 top 10 picks is stupider. Just flat out awful. Hated it then, even more now because we're no closer to finding an answer at the 4 spot. Sigh.
Who would you have picked?
Whoever ended up being the best pick or two out of that draft, that's who! Hindsight and all (in a crapshoot draft class).

Re: Suns News: Week 3 10/29-11/4

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:44 pm
by TOO
Split T wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:01 pm
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:46 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:23 pm
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:18 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:50 pm
Suns have to decide on Bender's 4th year option in the next day.
Benders option declined. So a draft that I hated because we picked 2 dudes who showed no real NBA skills yields us nothing. FANTASTIC.
I will say it yielded us less than most, but that draft still sucks. Both players were risks when we took them, but there was no obvious picks. Murray, Hield, or Sabonis would be nice, but I'm not upset that we took a chance. We swung and missed
Taking chances with a top 5 pick is stupid, taking chances with 2 top 10 picks is stupider. Just flat out awful. Hated it then, even more now because we're no closer to finding an answer at the 4 spot. Sigh.
Who would you have picked?


I wanted Murray, Sabonis, or Hield. Also liked Ellenson who turns out was shit too.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 10/29-11/4

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:47 pm
by TOO
AmareIsGod wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:23 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:01 pm
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:46 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:23 pm
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:18 pm


Benders option declined. So a draft that I hated because we picked 2 dudes who showed no real NBA skills yields us nothing. FANTASTIC.
I will say it yielded us less than most, but that draft still sucks. Both players were risks when we took them, but there was no obvious picks. Murray, Hield, or Sabonis would be nice, but I'm not upset that we took a chance. We swung and missed
Taking chances with a top 5 pick is stupid, taking chances with 2 top 10 picks is stupider. Just flat out awful. Hated it then, even more now because we're no closer to finding an answer at the 4 spot. Sigh.
Who would you have picked?
Whoever ended up being the best pick or two out of that draft, that's who! Hindsight and all (in a crapshoot draft class).
Or ya know, just be honest about it. I was all in on Sabonis and Murray. Hield wouldve been fine too. Anything was better than drafting 2 project PF with no tangible NBA skills. Nobody needed hindsight to see those 2 were doomed from the start.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 10/29-11/4

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:55 pm
by Nodack
Warrens Stats

http://www.nba.com/players/tj/warren/203933
——————-MPG FG% 3P% FT% PPG RPG APG BPG
SEASON 23.2 51.4 47.8 88.9 15.2 3.7 1.2 0.7
CAREER 26.8 50 29.8 75.6 13.7 4.1 1.1 0.5

He obviously worked on his 3 pt shooting over the summer. From 29.8% to 47.8%

Re: Suns News: Week 3 10/29-11/4

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:38 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
RE: 2016 Draft

Heild was my guy because I thought he could play PG. He's looking like an adequate pick for the lottery in that draft, but I don't think he would've been a viable PG solution now.

I think almost everyone around here was high on Sabonis. He seemed like a very safe pick, a prospect with a high floor even though he'd likely never become an all-star.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 10/29-11/4

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:33 pm
by Superbone
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:11 pm
The Bobster wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:07 pm
Wormwood wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:36 am
Weird thought... but why not make our starting line-up our best 5 guys?

That's Okobo, Booker, Bridges, Warren, and Ayton. Lots of shooting, spacing, scoring. Only 1 player really out of position (Warren). Our other PFs are kind of awful, and aren't giving us anything anyway.
God, the bench would be abysmal though!
The bench would basically consist of Josh Jackson..."trying to do it all"...like he likes to do lol.
Perfect!

Re: Suns News: Week 3 10/29-11/4

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:34 pm
by Split T
Hield was my favorite guy at #4, but I knew we weren't drafting him.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 10/29-11/4

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:37 pm
by Superbone
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:18 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:50 pm
Suns have to decide on Bender's 4th year option in the next day.
Benders option declined. So a draft that I hated because we picked 2 dudes who showed no real NBA skills yields us nothing. FANTASTIC.
Yes, wonderful! I feel even better when I read your signature also so thanks for that too!

Re: Suns News: Week 3 10/29-11/4

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:39 pm
by Superbone
Big Jake Little Jake wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:45 pm
I remember watching games with Bender at Maccabi and he was literally just standing at the three point line most plays, occasially swinging it to the next open guy...just like he did here for three years. I had to assume all these professional scouts were seeing something we weren't able to see, like at practice or private workouts. Turns out, no, he's just that player. I held out hope he'd figure out a role, never expecting him to be dominant, but it just hasn't happened. Incredibly dissapointing draft and one we needed to nail. I get that we took two long shots on projects, but maybe next time pick the projects that have some actual drive in them.

Resurrect the big fat INF "F," it certainly seems correct now.
All hail INF! INF and ShelC for Suns GM.