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Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:11 pm
by Cap
I really don’t want Sarver and Jones trying to get clever. I can’t imagine those two making a big trade we don’t end up regretting. Just draft and hope for the best.
Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:01 pm
by MightyMoog
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:10 pm
I think I’d do it if they took Anderson...otherwise I’d pass. I too would even include our pick...protected of course. I wouldn’t move that pick without top 1 protection for anyone but Giannis. For Conley I’d protect it as much as I could, but top 4 makes sense.
i don't think they'd trade us Giannis for Booker, Ayton and our unprotected #1.
Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:37 pm
by Split T
MightyMoog wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:01 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:10 pm
I think I’d do it if they took Anderson...otherwise I’d pass. I too would even include our pick...protected of course. I wouldn’t move that pick without top 1 protection for anyone but Giannis. For Conley I’d protect it as much as I could, but top 4 makes sense.
i don't think they'd trade us Giannis for Booker, Ayton and our unprotected #1.
I know they wouldn’t, I’m just talking from our perspective here. I’m just not trading Zion for anyone not named Giannis.
Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:32 am
by djy2j
There is zero chance Conley signs off on a trade to this shit show. None. He will go to a team of his approval because that's what decent franchises do for their long time players in this situation.
Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:56 am
by Mori Chu
They aren't going to trade Conley unless you give them back a really good asset. Ryan Anderson and TJ Warren wouldn't cut it. They would need our 1st rounder unprotected I think.
Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:16 am
by Indy
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:56 am
They aren't going to trade Conley unless you give them back a really good asset. Ryan Anderson and TJ Warren wouldn't cut it. They would need our 1st rounder unprotected I think.
They are not going to get good players for a PG that is over 30 and have 100M committed to him. They are signaling they want draft picks.
Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:38 am
by The Bobster
Indy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:16 am
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:56 am
They aren't going to trade Conley unless you give them back a really good asset. Ryan Anderson and TJ Warren wouldn't cut it. They would need our 1st rounder unprotected I think.
They are not going to get good players for a PG that is over 30 and have 100M committed to him. They are signaling they want draft picks.
And they would love to be out from under their big contractual obligations (Conley - $66 million, Gasol - $25 million, Parsons - $25 million). Now would be a nice time to have Tyson Chandler's contract as an expiring deal in the event that the Suns were interested for trading for a veteran.
But no, Jones didn't see any reason to hang onto him - they didn't create any cap space, they didn't get any assets in return, nuthin'. They just wrote him a fat check so he could go play for the Lakers.
Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:37 am
by Mori Chu
Gerald Bourguet of HoopsHabit weighs in on whether the Suns should pursue Conley:
https://hoopshabit.com/2019/01/23/phoen ... ke-conley/
Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:53 am
by Split T
I do think it’s unlikely Memphis would send Conley to us without making sure Conley was ok with it.
Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:00 am
by Split T
Makes a good point that they don’t actually need expiring contracts. They are on the hook for parsons contract next year and need to be bad next year to keep their pick(top 6 protected) so they won’t care about cap space this summer. Means Ryan Anderson would be a reasonable salary filler.
Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:00 am
by Mori Chu
Valley of the Suns argues it is time for the Suns to trade for Mike Conley:
https://valleyofthesuns.com/2019/01/23/ ... ke-conley/
Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:02 am
by Democritus
I'm more than OK with Conley. I starve for true PG since Dragic left us all alone.
Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:39 am
by Mori Chu
I would be just fine (ecstatic) with Mike Conley, assuming that we don't give up too many assets to get him. He's on the list of solid PGs who would really help this team, along with guys like Ricky Rubio, TJ McConnell, Jrue Holiday, etc. I am not concerned about his age or salary; in the current NBA salary structure, and given the lack of big contracts on our roster right now, we can easily afford him. And he's got several good NBA years left and hasn't shown signs of being washed up at all.
The big question is whether we'd give up this year's first-rounder for him. I think they'd insist on that. That's a tough pill to swallow, but I think I would do it. You have to give something to get something, and our own first-rounder would be the asset necessary to get Memphis to move Conley. And while that pick has a lot of value, the only way I think I'd truly regret giving it up would be if we got #1 and missed Zion. But I think if we get Conley, he'll help us get enough wins that we'll push up out of bottom lottery area and would become extremely unlikely to get #1 anyway. I think the risk/reward would be worth it.
Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:58 am
by specialsauce
I would protect it top 3.
Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:08 am
by Democritus
Let's make it top 2 and call it a day.
Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:25 am
by Superbone
Yeah, I don't do it without top 2 or 3 protection.
Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:44 pm
by wpmiller42
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:39 am
I would be just fine (ecstatic) with Mike Conley, assuming that we don't give up too many assets to get him. He's on the list of solid PGs who would really help this team, along with guys like Ricky Rubio, TJ McConnell, Jrue Holiday, etc. I am not concerned about his age or salary; in the current NBA salary structure, and given the lack of big contracts on our roster right now, we can easily afford him. And he's got several good NBA years left and hasn't shown signs of being washed up at all.
The big question is whether we'd give up this year's first-rounder for him. I think they'd insist on that. That's a tough pill to swallow, but I think I would do it. You have to give something to get something, and our own first-rounder would be the asset necessary to get Memphis to move Conley. And while that pick has a lot of value, the only way I think I'd truly regret giving it up would be if we got #1 and missed Zion. But I think if we get Conley, he'll help us get enough wins that we'll push up out of bottom lottery area and would become extremely unlikely to get #1 anyway. I think the risk/reward would be worth it.
I really like Conley, and he would help the team a ton, but I don't want to give up our pick this year to do it. I think Ja Morant could be the point we need, and I think he's ours if we want him.
I like Zion a lot, but if we were to land the #1 pick, I'd would think very hard about trading it for the #2 or #3 pick to pick up Morant plus more.
Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:47 pm
by Split T
You’re crazy. Zion is far and away the best prospect in this draft IMO
Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:22 pm
by In2ition
Yeah, I don't think I'm moving Zion for anyone other than Giannis or AD.
Re: Around the League: Week 14 1/14-1/20
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:49 pm
by specialsauce
Democritus wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:08 am
Let's make it top 2 and call it a day.
I’m okay with that. I really only want Zion or Morant. Otherwise I’d trade the pick anyway.