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Re: Suns 2022 Preseason News and Notes
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:37 pm
by Split T
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:26 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:18 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:05 pm
He's saying he didn't care what type of max it was, a max is a max.
But he still wanted a max…he still wanted the money. If he didn’t care about the money he would’ve taken a lesser deal.
I think he’s saying that just to cover himself. I think he wanted nothing short of the 5 year designated rookie max with full escalators and he’s saying a max is a max to avoid having to answer for why he didn’t get the 5 year max from Phoenix.
Of course he wants more money. Come on! Who wouldn’t?! It’s a non-story though. At the end of the day, he got a LOT of money. You move forward now.
Of course, I don’t have a problem with Ayton saying what he did, just don’t agree with Jeremy’s interpretation.
Re: Suns 2022 Preseason News and Notes
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:29 pm
by Indy
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:37 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:26 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:18 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:05 pm
He's saying he didn't care what type of max it was, a max is a max.
But he still wanted a max…he still wanted the money. If he didn’t care about the money he would’ve taken a lesser deal.
I think he’s saying that just to cover himself. I think he wanted nothing short of the 5 year designated rookie max with full escalators and he’s saying a max is a max to avoid having to answer for why he didn’t get the 5 year max from Phoenix.
Of course he wants more money. Come on! Who wouldn’t?! It’s a non-story though. At the end of the day, he got a LOT of money. You move forward now.
Of course, I don’t have a problem with Ayton saying what he did, just don’t agree with Jeremy’s interpretation.
It is completely poor management from Fagan on this. He somehow convinced Ayton that he was worth a 5 year full max contract, and even after that was clearly not true, he convinced him he was worth the 4 year max and that MULTIPLE teams were lined up to sign him to that and give up assets in a S&T for him. In the end, none of it was true.
Re: Suns 2022 Preseason News and Notes
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:48 pm
by JeremyG
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:18 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:05 pm
He's saying he didn't care what type of max it was, a max is a max.
But he still wanted a max…he still wanted the money. If he didn’t care about the money he would’ve taken a lesser deal.
I think he’s saying that just to cover himself. I think he wanted nothing short of the 5 year designated rookie max with full escalators and he’s saying a max is a max to avoid having to answer for why he didn’t get the 5 year max from Phoenix.
He wanted a max because he wants to be recognized as a max player. That's what he means by "m-a-x is m-a-x." It was not, primarily, about the money.
Re: Suns 2022 Preseason News and Notes
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 7:05 pm
by Split T
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:48 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:18 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:05 pm
He's saying he didn't care what type of max it was, a max is a max.
But he still wanted a max…he still wanted the money. If he didn’t care about the money he would’ve taken a lesser deal.
I think he’s saying that just to cover himself. I think he wanted nothing short of the 5 year designated rookie max with full escalators and he’s saying a max is a max to avoid having to answer for why he didn’t get the 5 year max from Phoenix.
He wanted a max because he wants to be recognized as a max player. That's what he means by "m-a-x is m-a-x." It was not, primarily, about the money.
It’s possible, but he didn’t say that. You’re reading into it. Again, might be right, but that’s not what he said.
Re: Suns 2022 Preseason News and Notes
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 7:31 pm
by Vladimir_Taltos
Something for Fun:
Got re-engaged to my ex today, so in celebration, bets on. If we trade for a backup PG, name who (before the trade deadline.) If you are right, a $200 donation to a legit charity of your choice will be made to the first person that names the player. Must post in thread and message with your choice. Whoever is in my messages with a 'correct' name first gets that slot. (Note...your bank account is NOT a legit charity,
.) Backup PG means they get the bench starting job over Payne. In event of any kind of dispute, it'll be put up the board to settle any grey areas.
VT
Re: Suns 2022 Preseason News and Notes
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 7:38 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Re: Suns 2022 Preseason News and Notes
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 7:46 pm
by Split T
What if we think it’s a FA signing? I’m going Kemba
Re: Suns 2022 Preseason News and Notes
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 7:47 pm
by Vladimir_Taltos
FA signing acceptable...whomever get's the starting job...call it out.
Re: Suns 2022 Preseason News and Notes
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 7:50 pm
by Split T
Alright I think Kemba Walker will have it at some point
Re: Suns 2022 Preseason News and Notes
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:55 pm
by Mori Chu
I don't care about money at all. Also, M to the A to the X, beeeeeetches!!!! Don't care though.
Re: Suns 2022 Preseason News and Notes
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:08 pm
by Superbone
Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 7:31 pm
Something for Fun:
Got re-engaged to my ex today, so in celebration, bets on. If we trade for a backup PG, name who (before the trade deadline.) If you are right, a $200 donation to a legit charity of your choice will be made to the first person that names the player. Must post in thread and message with your choice. Whoever is in my messages with a 'correct' name first gets that slot. (Note...your bank account is NOT a legit charity,
.) Backup PG means they get the bench starting job over Payne. In event of any kind of dispute, it'll be put up the board to settle any grey areas.
VT
Congrats VT.
Re: Suns 2022 Preseason News and Notes
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:39 pm
by Wally_West
Congratulations, VT!!
Re: Suns 2022 Preseason News and Notes
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:31 am
by pickle
Congrats VT
Re: Suns 2022 Preseason News and Notes
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:33 am
by pickle
On the Ayton thing, I kind of understood it like Jeremy did, that Ayton is saying / telling himself that he came out of this with what he wanted, and he wants to move on. I don’t really care tho ultimately if he wanted even more money or if he’s truly happy now. As long as he can put this and the game 7 snafu behind him and play hard without pouting, I really couldn’t care less whether he really wanted that 5 year with max kicker.
Re: Suns 2022 Preseason News and Notes
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:56 pm
by Split T
He does bring size and defense, but he’s pretty blah…hasn’t shot well the last few years and is only a career 32% shooter from 3. I wouldn’t hate a non-guaranteed deal, but I’d prefer Melo.
Re: Suns 2022 Preseason News and Notes
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:17 pm
by TOO
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:56 pm
He does bring size and defense, but he’s pretty blah…hasn’t shot well the last few years and is only a career 32% shooter from 3. I wouldn’t hate a non-guaranteed deal, but I’d prefer Melo.
The last thing this team needs is another dude who can't score lol.
Re: Suns 2022 Preseason News and Notes
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:35 pm
by Split T
I mean we’re talking non-guaranteed deals here…you take what you can get. Also Melo can score…
Re: Suns 2022 Preseason News and Notes
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:58 pm
by Split T
Re: Suns 2022 Preseason News and Notes
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:01 pm
by ShelC
Re: Suns 2022 Preseason News and Notes
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:05 pm
by Superbone
Man, we’re going to have a lot of questions going into the season. I hope everything is OK with Dario.
