2023 NBA Draft
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This is a really good take on size in the NBA:
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Rik Smits? Mark Eaton?AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 4:32 pmShow me a 7ft3+ NBA player that had a long and productive career without injury and I'll show you my 9" peep. They don't hold up. He's amazing, unlike anything I've seen at that height. I just know how this plays out, especially the way he plays.
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I kinda asked this before, but let’s say Suns miss the playoffs somehow and magically win the lottery and get the 1st pick. Do you just take Wembanyama? Or do you trade the pick?
You could trade to 2 and take Scoot plus land a massive haul. Let’s say OKC lands 2 and sends you 2/SGA/Chet.
Not even considering Paul, who I’d move to the bench at that point
SGA/Booker/Bridges/Chet/Ayton
Paul/Scoot/CamJ off the bench.
Or
Booker/Bridges/CamJ/Wembanyama/Ayton
I think you move Ayton at that point even though I do think they can play together.
Anyways, it won’t happen, but more fun to think about than our awful bench haha
You could trade to 2 and take Scoot plus land a massive haul. Let’s say OKC lands 2 and sends you 2/SGA/Chet.
Not even considering Paul, who I’d move to the bench at that point
SGA/Booker/Bridges/Chet/Ayton
Paul/Scoot/CamJ off the bench.
Or
Booker/Bridges/CamJ/Wembanyama/Ayton
I think you move Ayton at that point even though I do think they can play together.
Anyways, it won’t happen, but more fun to think about than our awful bench haha
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Of course you take him. Either find a way for him to play alongside Ayton, or trade the latter.
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The highest rated prospect ever? Come on, let's get serious. You take him and figure everything else out later.
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.
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Or Toronto offers a FVV/Siakam/Anunoby package?
Or the SGA/Chet/Scoot package I mentioned above? That gives you an established all-star, a 2nd overall pick going into what will be his rookie year, and a guy who’d go 1st overall in most drafts.
For a team that is built to win now, I just see a lot of value in taking the guaranteed success. It’s like taking a guaranteed 500K or flipping a coin for 1,000,000 vs nothing.
Wouldn’t blame anyone for preferring the higher upside though. Could you imagine the defense you could play with a Mikal/Wemby/Ayton frontline? Add Booker and then either a pg, or go point-Book with CamJ. That would be fun for a long long time if Wemby stays healthy.
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You don’t think there’s any value to trading it for an immediate return on a win-now team? What if some fading vet team offered a massive haul. Say Miami decides they want to start over and offer Jimmy Butler and Bam Adebayo.
Or Toronto offers a FVV/Siakam/Anunoby package?
Or the SGA/Chet/Scoot package I mentioned above? That gives you an established all-star, a 2nd overall pick going into what will be his rookie year, and a guy who’d go 1st overall in most drafts.
For a team that is built to win now, I just see a lot of value in taking the guaranteed success. It’s like taking a guaranteed 500K or flipping a coin for 1,000,000 vs nothing.
Wouldn’t blame anyone for preferring the higher upside though. Could you imagine the defense you could play with a Mikal/Wemby/Ayton frontline? Add Booker and then either a pg, or go point-Book with CamJ. That would be fun for a long long time if Wemby stays healthy.
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Smits had his share of injury issues late in his career, but Eaton is a good call.Cap wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:34 pmRik Smits? Mark Eaton?AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 4:32 pmShow me a 7ft3+ NBA player that had a long and productive career without injury and I'll show you my 9" peep. They don't hold up. He's amazing, unlike anything I've seen at that height. I just know how this plays out, especially the way he plays.
Also there are people who would tell you Kareem was taller than the 7'2" he was listed at and that Wilt was taller than the 7'1" he was listed at. And both of those guys were relatively productive.
The main problem is that he's not built like Eaton, Kareem, Wilt, etc. He's thin like Shawn Bradley, Sampson and Porzingis and that raises some concerns.
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Watch the YouTube video I posted at the top of this page. It has doom good insight into height.The Bobster wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 12:59 pmSmits had his share of injury issues late in his career, but Eaton is a good call.Cap wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:34 pmRik Smits? Mark Eaton?AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 4:32 pmShow me a 7ft3+ NBA player that had a long and productive career without injury and I'll show you my 9" peep. They don't hold up. He's amazing, unlike anything I've seen at that height. I just know how this plays out, especially the way he plays.
Also there are people who would tell you Kareem was taller than the 7'2" he was listed at and that Wilt was taller than the 7'1" he was listed at. And both of those guys were relatively productive.
The main problem is that he's not built like Eaton, Kareem, Wilt, etc. He's thin like Shawn Bradley, Sampson and Porzingis and that raises some concerns.
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I’d take that scoot SGA Chet package. The other two not so much.
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No, he'll play in the frontcourt. He is more Porzingis than he is Durant in terms of position. Some teams might try him at the 4 or maybe in the 3 in spurts, but eventually he'll probably land at the 5.
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Might be time to dust this thread off
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Suns should target Gradey Dick. Has some good size and has a real smooth stroke. I could watch him stroke it all day.
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OK.Wally_West wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 3:46 pmSuns should target Gradey Dick. Has some good size and has a real smooth stroke. I could watch him stroke it all day.
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.
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Grade-E? Pass. I accept only Grade-A Dick.
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I'm still partial to Grady Seasons.
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That kid looks like the second coming of Danny Ainge. Not sure why he reminds me so much of him.
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He's wearing Danny's hair.
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