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Re: Suns All-Time Top 10
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:45 am
by Superbone
The Bobster wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:04 am
"Stumpy" could really score. I was a little surprised he made it to the Hall of Fame, but he had a great college career at UCLA, so that was obviously what seperated him from the pack.
I think Van's tenacity and dependability has kind of been forgotten over the years. If there aver was a "Mr. Sun" it was him, and I enjoyed his color commentary alongside Al on the television broadcasts before he took over as interim coach. His health isn't what it was, so you don't see much about him anymore, but he's as much a pillar of the franchise as anyone (including Jerry C.)
Yep, and him and Tom have been Valley mainstays.
Re: Suns All-Time Top 10
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:38 am
by Mori Chu
NBA nicknames used to be so money. Stumpy? Amazing.
Re: Suns All-Time Top 10
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:46 am
by JeremyG
It would be awesome if Al McCoy was still up for sitting down for like an hour or two long podcast, just recounting the history of the Suns, era by era, from personally witnessing up-close (and even traveling with the team for most of the time) 51 of their 55 seasons.
Re: Suns All-Time Top 10
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:14 am
by The Bobster
JeremyG wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:46 am
It would be awesome if Al McCoy was still up for sitting down for like an hour or two long podcast, just recounting the history of the Suns, era by era, from personally witnessing up-close (and even traveling with the team for most of the time) 51 of their 55 seasons.
You might be interested in the two books written by Tom Ambrose.
Re: Suns All-Time Top 10
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:12 pm
by SunsRIt
Or the book “The Little Team That Could... And Darn Near Did! The Famous Rise of the Phoenix Suns” by Joe Gilmartin. I read that one years ago.
Re: Suns All-Time Top 10
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:18 pm
by The Bobster
That one's getting hard to find. The Suns' 25th anniversary book is another great one for reading about the early days.
And Foul!: The Connie Hawkins Story is one every basketball fan should read.
Re: Suns All-Time Top 10
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:17 pm
by Mori Chu
It's about time for a reread of :07 Seconds Or Less.
Re: Suns All-Time Top 10
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:25 pm
by LazarusLong
The Bobster wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:04 am
"Stumpy" could really score. I was a little surprised he made it to the Hall of Fame, but he had a great college career at UCLA, so that was obviously what seperated him from the pack.
I think Van's tenacity and dependability has kind of been forgotten over the years. If there aver was a "Mr. Sun" it was him, and I enjoyed his color commentary alongside Al on the television broadcasts before he took over as interim coach. His health isn't what it was, so you don't see much about him anymore, but he's as much a pillar of the franchise as anyone (including Jerry C.)
It was him or Cazzie Russell when the Knicks were deciding who to make eligible for the expansion draft.
Knicks thought Cazzie had more offensive upside.
Van was a great trend setter for the early days of the Suns, as he busted his @$$ on both ends of the court.
Rick Barry said Van Arsdale gave him the most trouble as a defender.
Van had a stroke a few years back, and has trouble speaking now, but is fairly active otherwise.
Re: Suns All-Time Top 10
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:40 pm
by The Bobster
I know the Van Arsdale brothers have a studio in Scottsdale where Dick paints, but he has vocal problems since his stroke so Tom does most of the public speaking.
Also, I see one of the Original Suns, George Wilson, passed away the other day. Too bad there wasn't any acknowledgement by the team.
Re: Suns All-Time Top 10
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:46 am
by LazarusLong
Wilson was the opening night starting center.
Rest of the lineup comprised Gary Gregor, Van Arsdale, Dick Snyder and Goodrich.
Wilson was traded later in the season. Phoenix obtained Jim Fox in a separate trade to play center.
Re: Suns All-Time Top 10
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:17 pm
by Kryptonic
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:17 am
How about a Top-10 Suns #10 List. That is, the best players ever to wear #10 for the Suns? Here's the list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... _number#10
Dick Snyder (1968–1969)
Fred Taylor (1970–1971)
Jeff Webb (1972)
Phil Lumpkin (1975–1976)
Don Buse (1977–1980)
Rod Foster (1983–1986)
Greg Grant (1989–1990)
Duane Cooper (1993–1994)
David Wood (1996)
Sam Cassell (1996)
Dexter Boney (1997)
Milt Palacio (2002)
Diante Garrett (2012-2013)
Leandro Barbosa (2003–2010, 2014)
Zoran Dragić (2014-2015)
Seth Curry (2015)
Sonny Weems (2015-2016)
Chase Budinger (2016)
Derrick Jones Jr. (2016–2017)
Shaquille Harrison (2018)
Emanuel Terry (2019)
Ty Jerome (2019-2020)
Jalen Smith (2020-2022)
Damion Lee (2022-)
A real motley crew, I must say. The Brazilian Blur is on there (best Suns #10 of all time?) as well as current Sun Damion Lee.
Crazy because this popped up in my feed today…. Almost like someone’s watching!
https://apple.news/A3eaAlrMwTO6ETNRB-Hd2QA
Re: Suns All-Time Top 10
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:38 pm
by Superbone
Kryptonic wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:17 pm
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:17 am
How about a Top-10 Suns #10 List. That is, the best players ever to wear #10 for the Suns? Here's the list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... _number#10
Dick Snyder (1968–1969)
Fred Taylor (1970–1971)
Jeff Webb (1972)
Phil Lumpkin (1975–1976)
Don Buse (1977–1980)
Rod Foster (1983–1986)
Greg Grant (1989–1990)
Duane Cooper (1993–1994)
David Wood (1996)
Sam Cassell (1996)
Dexter Boney (1997)
Milt Palacio (2002)
Diante Garrett (2012-2013)
Leandro Barbosa (2003–2010, 2014)
Zoran Dragić (2014-2015)
Seth Curry (2015)
Sonny Weems (2015-2016)
Chase Budinger (2016)
Derrick Jones Jr. (2016–2017)
Shaquille Harrison (2018)
Emanuel Terry (2019)
Ty Jerome (2019-2020)
Jalen Smith (2020-2022)
Damion Lee (2022-)
A real motley crew, I must say. The Brazilian Blur is on there (best Suns #10 of all time?) as well as current Sun Damion Lee.
Crazy because this popped up in my feed today…. Almost like someone’s watching!
https://apple.news/A3eaAlrMwTO6ETNRB-Hd2QA
Not only that, they're making money off of us!
