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Re: Game Day: Suns (15-17) @ Pacers (17-18), Sat 1/4/24
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 6:56 pm
by Mori Chu
We're "only" down 10, but this just completely has the feel of a loss. I would be shocked if we came back to win this game. This team has no fight in it, no perseverance.
Re: Game Day: Suns (15-17) @ Pacers (17-18), Sat 1/4/24
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 6:59 pm
by Mori Chu
Re: Game Day: Suns (15-17) @ Pacers (17-18), Sat 1/4/24
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:00 pm
by ShelC
Yea i'd actually be mad if we won because it'll just give more ammo to people who think this is salvageable. Again, just like last year, where a few random wins in the middle of all the losing is enough to think maybe this team can click and turn it around.
Re: Game Day: Suns (15-17) @ Pacers (17-18), Sat 1/4/24
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:01 pm
by TOO
Burn it down.
Re: Game Day: Suns (15-17) @ Pacers (17-18), Sat 1/4/24
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:02 pm
by ShelC
TJ McConnell can get to his spot on the baseline 4 times and knock down that middy jumper. We can't stop it and what's worse - that used to be Book's shot but instead he's running PnR 35ft from the basket with smalls ghost screening for him that leads to absolutely nothing.
Re: Game Day: Suns (15-17) @ Pacers (17-18), Sat 1/4/24
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:03 pm
by Mori Chu
ShelC wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:00 pm
Yea i'd actually be mad if we won because it'll just give more ammo to people who think this is salvageable. Again, just like last year, where a few random wins in the middle of all the losing is enough to think
maybe this team can click and turn it around.
Completely agree. Ownership and FO need clarity; they need to see definitively that this edition of the Suns is completely cooked, that there is no salvaging or patching this team, no quick-fix trade that can make us a contender, no reason to burn future assets (2031 1st) to go "all in" on this group. We are done, we are toast, we suck. I actively want us to lose every game until they blow up this team. I have had it.
Re: Game Day: Suns (15-17) @ Pacers (17-18), Sat 1/4/24
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:05 pm
by Mori Chu
This moment during one of the breaks was genuinely sweet.
Re: Game Day: Suns (15-17) @ Pacers (17-18), Sat 1/4/24
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:07 pm
by The Bobster
No defensive resistance whatseover.
Re: Game Day: Suns (15-17) @ Pacers (17-18), Sat 1/4/24
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:10 pm
by Cap
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:03 pm
ShelC wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:00 pm
Yea i'd actually be mad if we won because it'll just give more ammo to people who think this is salvageable. Again, just like last year, where a few random wins in the middle of all the losing is enough to think
maybe this team can click and turn it around.
Completely agree. Ownership and FO need clarity; they need to see definitively that this edition of the Suns is completely cooked, that there is no salvaging or patching this team, no quick-fix trade that can make us a contender, no reason to burn future assets (2031 1st) to go "all in" on this group. We are done, we are toast, we suck. I actively want us to lose every game until they blow up this team. I have had it.
Man, people were going all in on me for complaining about giving up our draft picks and saying I was advocating tanking. Here you are actually advocating tanking and we don’t even have our draft pick.
Re: Game Day: Suns (15-17) @ Pacers (17-18), Sat 1/4/24
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:14 pm
by ShelC
I'm not advocating tanking. I'm saying get what you can for KD and use that to reload around Book. We already have Dunn on the wing, Oso is a nice rotational big and Royce and Allen are locked in. Move one for more picks/young players. We can fix this relatively quickly.
Re: Game Day: Suns (15-17) @ Pacers (17-18), Sat 1/4/24
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:15 pm
by JeremyG
Is this a good time to remind everyone that we could have had Haliburton if we had wanted him?
Re: Game Day: Suns (15-17) @ Pacers (17-18), Sat 1/4/24
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:18 pm
by Cap
ShelC wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:14 pm
I'm not advocating tanking. I'm saying get what you can for KD and use that to reload around Book. We already have Dunn on the wing, Oso is a nice rotational big and Royce and Allen are locked in. Move one for more picks/young players. We can fix this relatively quickly.
I wasn’t replying to you, I was replying to Mori who said, “I actively want us to lose every game.”
If anyone has this idea that Ishbia will become competent if only he realizes what a poor job he has done so far, let’s just say I don’t share that optimism.
Re: Game Day: Suns (15-17) @ Pacers (17-18), Sat 1/4/24
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:19 pm
by The Bobster
Outscored 70-52 in the second half.
Re: Game Day: Suns (15-17) @ Pacers (17-18), Sat 1/4/24
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:19 pm
by ShelC
Gotcha. I tihnk we want to lose games to it's apparent this isn't working and forces Ishbia/Jones to blow it up sooner than later.
Re: Game Day: Suns (15-17) @ Pacers (17-18), Sat 1/4/24
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:20 pm
by Kryptonic
JeremyG wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:15 pm
Is this a good time to remind everyone that we could have had Haliburton if he had wanted him?
No…. This is triggering to too many here.

Re: Game Day: Suns (15-17) @ Pacers (17-18), Sat 1/4/24
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:21 pm
by Mori Chu
I want us to trade KD to Houston for two of our future 1sts back, plus a young and a ballast contract (Dillon Brooks). I want us to trade anybody else that can net us picks or youngs back. I want us to lose so the FO has to accept the truth. I do not want to "tank."
Re: Game Day: Suns (15-17) @ Pacers (17-18), Sat 1/4/24
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:21 pm
by Mori Chu
Game result: THIS TEAM SUCKS.
Re: Game Day: Suns (15-17) @ Pacers (17-18), Sat 1/4/24
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:21 pm
by Cap
ShelC wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:19 pm
Gotcha. I tihnk we want to lose games to it's apparent this isn't working and forces Ishbia/Jones to blow it up sooner than later.
Making it apparent that they have been bad so far isn’t going to make them good at their jobs.
Re: Game Day: Suns (15-17) @ Pacers (17-18), Sat 1/4/24
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:21 pm
by Uncle_Gene
Suns defense has gone south.
Re: Game Day: Suns (15-17) @ Pacers (17-18), Sat 1/4/24
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:23 pm
by Cap
Uncle_Gene wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:21 pm
Suns defense has gone south.
Well no shit, the NBA season is during the winter. Maybe it’ll be back by playoffs time. If hunters don’t get it.