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I can acknowledge we're in a rough spot right now and some of you make such strong arguments for why our outlook is dire. I still try to have a glimmer of hope but the funny part is while I maybe know it's the awful truth, I get annoyed when I see all the TV reports or tweets.

Part of me thinks it's easy to continue to run with this story for clicks. Butler and KD two of the polarizing figures who will not hesitate to respond to criticism so feels like everyone getting in on it as we're low hanging fruit now.

I don't particularly care to hear it from them tho

bajanguy008 wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 08, 2025 11:41 am

I can acknowledge we're in a rough spot right now and some of you make such strong arguments for why our outlook is dire. I still try to have a glimmer of hope but the funny part is while I maybe know it's the awful truth, I get annoyed when I see all the TV reports or tweets.

Part of me thinks it's easy to continue to run with this story for clicks. Butler and KD two of the polarizing figures who will not hesitate to respond to criticism so feels like everyone getting in on it as we're low hanging fruit now.

I don't particularly care to hear it from them tho

Totally agree.. trying to trump up stuff for clicks.

I thought that Ramona Shelburne report was typical ESPN BS. Maybe its awkward because YOU are there. You can't characterize that environment with you in it or 5 minutes. I felt toxic just watching her speak for 10 seconds. Typical ESPN creating drama. Unless they were yelling insults at each other, stop the lazy reporting BS.

Carno wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 10, 2025 2:48 pm

I thought that Ramona Shelburne report was typical ESPN BS. Maybe its awkward because YOU are there. You can't characterize that environment with you in it or 5 minutes. I felt toxic just watching her speak for 10 seconds. Typical ESPN creating drama. Unless they were yelling insults at each other, stop the lazy reporting BS.

Never been a big fan of hers.

Shelburne and Jeanie Buss are BFF. She's a Lakers propagandist who's access to the Lakers is valued by ESPN.

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 10, 2025 5:19 pm

Shelburne and Jeanie Buss are BFF. She's a Lakers propagandist who's access to the Lakers is valued by ESPN.

This.

I get that most fanbases dunk on Shelbourne, but I am a little confused as to why everyone is in a hurry to eviscerate her for saying the Suns have a toxic lockerroom. Is that really so outlandish?

I also don't understand attacking her report based on how little she has been around the team. I don't think she was offering that report as what she has personally observed. Like most of what all these members of the media report, she is claiming to have heard this.

I'm not trying to say she is right or wrong; I just think it's a little weird how strongly people are going to bat for a team that has hardly looked like a team with a strong lockerroom.

"Toxic" is the problem with her reporting. It's a buzz word that can be extremely subjective.

Of course the locker room could be better, they're a .500 team with title aspirations. I'm sure people are sometimes on edge and frustrated, but is that really "toxic"?