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Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:43 pm

Superbone wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:09 pm

So, we got even smaller. Cool. I didn't think that was even possible. Can we join a 6'6" and under league? Might as well just sit KD.

Time to start playing the young guys. If this isn't rock bottom, so help us all...

Well Nurk wasn’t playing so I don’t think we did. Guess it depends on who Martin takes minutes from

Whether we played him or not has nothing to do with it. We needed size but traded a big for two more guards.

You make a trade to improve a team…. This didn’t improve us at all AND it costs a first round pick.

I would have rather they just waive Nurkic and save the pick

Really looking forward to Jones spinning this one later: we like our team, chance for a reset after lots of chatter leading up to the deadline, got two players back we like and pick that will be valuable, still have high ambitions for this season - just got to make the playoffs and anything can happen. Sigh. Yawn. Barf.

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:42 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:04 pm

The ineptitude has officially surpassed the Sarver-era ineptitude.

lol, not remotely close

Yeah I know, it’s sad that it’s not even remotely close, either.

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:11 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:42 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:04 pm

The ineptitude has officially surpassed the Sarver-era ineptitude.

lol, not remotely close

Yeah I know, it’s sad that it’s not even remotely close, either.

You wanna start the nurk appreciation thread?

Look on the bright side, we have yet another twin brother on our team once again.

SunsShine wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:20 pm

Look on the bright side, we have yet another twin brother on our team once again.

Why is it we always get the shittier one? lol

I don't honestly see how anyone can defend Jones or this FO for the decisions they've made over the past couple of seasons. Moving Paul to bring in Beal and his NTC has to go down as the pinnacle but the roster construction, coaching appointments and complete disregard for draft picks has been mind boggling in it's ineptitude.

He simply has to go.

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:56 am

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:49 am

I’m old enough to remember people saying on here (2 weeks ago), “At least Ishbia doesn’t attach first rounders just to dump salary, like Sarver did with Kurt Thomas.”

This is not the same thing at all

I’ll walk this back a little bit…it’s a little like it if we just let Martin/Micic walk. Bigger difference is Nurk lost all value on the court and seemed to be a problem in the locker room too. We needed to move him but couldn’t. Thomas was fine as a player still, Sarver was just cheap and we made no attempt to bring in a useful player for him in return…also of course the difference between 2 1sts and 1 1st plus getting a 2nd.

SunsSince92 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:23 pm

I don't honestly see how anyone can defend Jones or this FO for the decisions they've made over the past couple of seasons. Moving Paul to bring in Beal and his NTC has to go down as the pinnacle but the roster construction, coaching appointments and complete disregard for draft picks has been mind boggling in it's ineptitude.

He simply has to go.

Well the simple answer is Jones isn’t in charge

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:25 pm

SunsSince92 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:23 pm

I don't honestly see how anyone can defend Jones or this FO for the decisions they've made over the past couple of seasons. Moving Paul to bring in Beal and his NTC has to go down as the pinnacle but the roster construction, coaching appointments and complete disregard for draft picks has been mind boggling in it's ineptitude.

He simply has to go.

Well the simple answer is Jones isn’t in charge

So he's in charge when he makes good decisions but not when he makes bad ones? You can't have it both ways.

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:11 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:42 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:04 pm

The ineptitude has officially surpassed the Sarver-era ineptitude.

lol, not remotely close

Yeah I know, it’s sad that it’s not even remotely close, either.

I was gonna respond but it’s not worth it..if you really think this is worse than Sarver, then I don’t know what to tell you.

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:26 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:11 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:42 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:04 pm

The ineptitude has officially surpassed the Sarver-era ineptitude.

lol, not remotely close

Yeah I know, it’s sad that it’s not even remotely close, either.

I was gonna respond but it’s not worth it..if you really think this is worse than Sarver, then I don’t know what to tell you.

He traded Ayton, he's forever public enemy number one.

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:26 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:11 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:42 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:04 pm

The ineptitude has officially surpassed the Sarver-era ineptitude.

lol, not remotely close

Yeah I know, it’s sad that it’s not even remotely close, either.

I was gonna respond but it’s not worth it..if you really think this is worse than Sarver, then I don’t know what to tell you.

I seem to recall Jones worked for Sarver too. This isn't about Ishbia, it's about Jones and his incompetence.

SunsSince92 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:28 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:26 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:11 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:42 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:04 pm

The ineptitude has officially surpassed the Sarver-era ineptitude.

lol, not remotely close

Yeah I know, it’s sad that it’s not even remotely close, either.

I was gonna respond but it’s not worth it..if you really think this is worse than Sarver, then I don’t know what to tell you.

I seem to recall Jones worked for Sarver too. This isn't about Ishbia, it's about Jones and his incompetence.

If he isn't making the decisions then what is the point of him being here?

SunsSince92 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:26 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:25 pm

SunsSince92 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:23 pm

I don't honestly see how anyone can defend Jones or this FO for the decisions they've made over the past couple of seasons. Moving Paul to bring in Beal and his NTC has to go down as the pinnacle but the roster construction, coaching appointments and complete disregard for draft picks has been mind boggling in it's ineptitude.

He simply has to go.

Well the simple answer is Jones isn’t in charge

So he's in charge when he makes good decisions but not when he makes bad ones? You can't have it both ways.

My point is non of us know who’s actually calling the shots. I think there was a clear shift in front office practice after Ishbia came aboard though…and Bartlestein is above Jones.

I’m not trying to credit Jones for certain moves and pass the blame for others. But based on what we knew of Jones before Ishbia, I have my doubts that he’s running the show. He’s certainly going to be the fall guy though.

Kryptonic wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:19 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:11 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:42 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:04 pm

The ineptitude has officially surpassed the Sarver-era ineptitude.

lol, not remotely close

Yeah I know, it’s sad that it’s not even remotely close, either.

You wanna start the nurk appreciation thread?

At the rate we’re going, we’re headed for a Sarver/McDonough/Watson appreciation thread.

SunsSince92 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:28 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:26 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:11 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:42 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:04 pm

The ineptitude has officially surpassed the Sarver-era ineptitude.

lol, not remotely close

Yeah I know, it’s sad that it’s not even remotely close, either.

I was gonna respond but it’s not worth it..if you really think this is worse than Sarver, then I don’t know what to tell you.

I seem to recall Jones worked for Sarver too. This isn't about Ishbia, it's about Jones and his incompetence.

Remind me what happened during Jones tenure as GM while Sarver was here? Here I’ll do it for you.

Monty, the bubble season, CP3, went to the finals, best record in franchise history. Then Ishbia and KD and Beal and Nurk, Vogel, Bud.

Pretty sure every move you have a problem with happened post Ishbia, no?

One exception is passing on Haliburton.

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:31 pm

SunsSince92 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:26 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:25 pm

SunsSince92 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:23 pm

I don't honestly see how anyone can defend Jones or this FO for the decisions they've made over the past couple of seasons. Moving Paul to bring in Beal and his NTC has to go down as the pinnacle but the roster construction, coaching appointments and complete disregard for draft picks has been mind boggling in it's ineptitude.

He simply has to go.

Well the simple answer is Jones isn’t in charge

So he's in charge when he makes good decisions but not when he makes bad ones? You can't have it both ways.

My point is non of us know who’s actually calling the shots. I think there was a clear shift in front office practice after Ishbia came aboard though…and Bartlestein is above Jones.

I’m not trying to credit Jones for certain moves and pass the blame for others. But based on what we knew of Jones before Ishbia, I have my doubts that he’s running the show. He’s certainly going to be the fall guy though.

That's fair and I'm not looking to start an argument. I'm just infuriated by some of the moves being made, as it's clear a number of us are. He's been the common denominator throughout although I appreciate none of us truly know who is calling the shots.