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Re: 2025 Play-In Watch(9 wins to go)
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:33 pm
by Superbone
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:24 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:03 am
I do think we might get that 10 seed, but I agree it’s pretty unlikely we win two games in the play-in….and basically no chance we beat OKC in round 1(unless SGA is hurt).
It is conceivable (though I wouldn't bet on it) that we beat SAC in the 9-10 game, and then LAC in the second play-in game. But then the OKC meat grinder awaits. I think honestly OKC would smoke us even if Shai were out for the whole series. They are that much better.
I foresee 0-4 if we get that far. At least it wouldn't be a surprise this season unlike last season.
Re: 2025 Play-In Watch(9 wins to go)
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:37 pm
by JeremyG
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:33 pm
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:24 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:03 am
I do think we might get that 10 seed, but I agree it’s pretty unlikely we win two games in the play-in….and basically no chance we beat OKC in round 1(unless SGA is hurt).
It is conceivable (though I wouldn't bet on it) that we beat SAC in the 9-10 game, and then LAC in the second play-in game. But then the OKC meat grinder awaits. I think honestly OKC would smoke us even if Shai were out for the whole series. They are that much better.
I foresee 0-4 if we get that far. At least it wouldn't be a surprise this season unlike last season.
I bet we could win one game. It’s at least possible. Then we would have a more successful season than last year, and Ishbia will be convinced we are improving and make no changes. Lol.
Re: 2025 Play-In Watch(9 wins to go)
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:45 pm
by Superbone
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:37 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:33 pm
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:24 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:03 am
I do think we might get that 10 seed, but I agree it’s pretty unlikely we win two games in the play-in….and basically no chance we beat OKC in round 1(unless SGA is hurt).
It is conceivable (though I wouldn't bet on it) that we beat SAC in the 9-10 game, and then LAC in the second play-in game. But then the OKC meat grinder awaits. I think honestly OKC would smoke us even if Shai were out for the whole series. They are that much better.
I foresee 0-4 if we get that far. At least it wouldn't be a surprise this season unlike last season.
I bet we could win one game. It’s at least possible. Then we would have a more successful season than last year, and Ishbia will be convinced we are improving and make no changes. Lol.
I don't think he got to where he is being that dumb.
Re: 2025 Play-In Watch(9 wins to go)
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:58 pm
by JeremyG
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:45 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:37 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:33 pm
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:24 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:03 am
I do think we might get that 10 seed, but I agree it’s pretty unlikely we win two games in the play-in….and basically no chance we beat OKC in round 1(unless SGA is hurt).
It is conceivable (though I wouldn't bet on it) that we beat SAC in the 9-10 game, and then LAC in the second play-in game. But then the OKC meat grinder awaits. I think honestly OKC would smoke us even if Shai were out for the whole series. They are that much better.
I foresee 0-4 if we get that far. At least it wouldn't be a surprise this season unlike last season.
I bet we could win one game. It’s at least possible. Then we would have a more successful season than last year, and Ishbia will be convinced we are improving and make no changes. Lol.
I don't think he got to where he is being that dumb.
Well we got to where we are from him being that dumb.
Re: 2025 Play-In Watch(9 wins to go)
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:43 pm
by Superbone
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:58 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:45 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:37 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:33 pm
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:24 pm
It is conceivable (though I wouldn't bet on it) that we beat SAC in the 9-10 game, and then LAC in the second play-in game. But then the OKC meat grinder awaits. I think honestly OKC would smoke us even if Shai were out for the whole series. They are that much better.
I foresee 0-4 if we get that far. At least it wouldn't be a surprise this season unlike last season.
I bet we could win one game. It’s at least possible. Then we would have a more successful season than last year, and Ishbia will be convinced we are improving and make no changes. Lol.
I don't think he got to where he is being that dumb.
Well we got to where we are from him being that dumb.
Dude, you know he's a first time owner with very little experience. He will get better. He ain't dumb. How about a modicum of perspective?
I'd say he was brash. Not dumb. He will learn from his mistakes I am sure.
Re: 2025 Play-In Watch(9 wins to go)
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:48 pm
by JeremyG
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:43 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:58 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:45 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:37 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:33 pm
I foresee 0-4 if we get that far. At least it wouldn't be a surprise this season unlike last season.
I bet we could win one game. It’s at least possible. Then we would have a more successful season than last year, and Ishbia will be convinced we are improving and make no changes. Lol.
I don't think he got to where he is being that dumb.
Well we got to where we are from him being that dumb.
Dude, you know he's a first time owner with very little experience. He will get better. He ain't dumb. How about a modicum of perspective?
I'd say he was brash. Not dumb. He will learn from his mistakes I am sure.
He also knew he was a first time owner with very little experience. He was dumb to overrule his bball ops people, and not let them make the decisions.
Re: 2025 Play-In Watch(9 wins to go)
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:00 pm
by Superbone
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:48 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:43 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:58 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:45 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:37 pm
I bet we could win one game. It’s at least possible. Then we would have a more successful season than last year, and Ishbia will be convinced we are improving and make no changes. Lol.
I don't think he got to where he is being that dumb.
Well we got to where we are from him being that dumb.
Dude, you know he's a first time owner with very little experience. He will get better. He ain't dumb. How about a modicum of perspective?
I'd say he was brash. Not dumb. He will learn from his mistakes I am sure.
He also knew he was a first time owner with very little experience. He was dumb to overrule his bball ops people, and not let them make the decisions.
Well, we don't know the details for sure. I don't think he alone made all those decisions. Especially Paul for Beal and the team make up via free agency and trades. I give him the most blame for way overpaying for KD but we knew Jones had been working on it for months before Ishbia bought the team. I'm pretty sure the ops people wanted KD, Beal, and the free agents and trades we made. Probably the Bud hiring too.
Re: 2025 Play-In Watch(9 wins to go)
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 10:42 am
by The Bobster
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:00 pm
Well, we don't know the details for sure. I don't think he alone made all those decisions. Especially Paul for Beal and the team make up via free agency and trades. I give him the most blame for way overpaying for KD but we knew Jones had been working on it for months before Ishbia bought the team. I'm pretty sure the ops people wanted KD, Beal, and the free agents and trades we made. Probably the Bud hiring too.
I think there is the assumption that we know more than we really do. We don't really know how much of the decision making process was Ishbia, we just know that, like any other NBA owner he's going to be part of it for decisions that big.
Ultimately, if you're the one responsible like Jones is, you have to make your feelings known if your owner is overruling one of your decisions. Which may have happened here, we don't know for certain.
I think in hingsight the Durant deal will be (or is already) seen as giving up too much to make an immediate splash, and that the Beal trade just shouldn't have been done at all.
Re: 2025 Play-In Watch(9 wins to go)
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 2:20 pm
by Superbone
The Bobster wrote: ↑Wed Mar 12, 2025 10:42 am
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:00 pm
Well, we don't know the details for sure. I don't think he alone made all those decisions. Especially Paul for Beal and the team make up via free agency and trades. I give him the most blame for way overpaying for KD but we knew Jones had been working on it for months before Ishbia bought the team. I'm pretty sure the ops people wanted KD, Beal, and the free agents and trades we made. Probably the Bud hiring too.
I think there is the assumption that we know more than we really do. We don't really know how much of the decision making process was Ishbia, we just know that, like any other NBA owner he's going to be part of it for decisions that big.
Ultimately, if you're the one responsible like Jones is, you have to make your feelings known if your owner is overruling one of your decisions. Which may have happened here, we don't know for certain.
I think in hingsight the Durant deal will be (or is already) seen as giving up too much to make an immediate splash, and that the Beal trade just shouldn't have been done at all.
Yes, to all of that. I know I thought it was too much at the time. Regarding Beal, I think most of us liked it but we didn't think through the redundancy and NTC. That's the FO's job.
Re: 2025 Play-In Watch(9 wins to go)
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 2:21 pm
by Superbone
FYI, had a busy morning. Finally eating my first meal and I'll put up a (much anticipated) game thread after I finish eating if nobody puts it up beforehand. Hint, hint.
Re: 2025 Play-In Watch(9 wins to go)
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 8:36 am
by Split T
Need to win the next 4 I think if we want to stay alive…. Home games against Sacramento, Toronto, and Chicago, plus a road game against the Lakers without Lebron.
Re: 2025 Play-In Watch(8 wins to go? Honestly 6 might do it)
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 10:49 am
by Split T
We’re just 1.5 games out of 10th(3 games ahead of Portland in 12th). Dallas is completely decimated at this point and probably has 5 wins max left in them, which would put them at 38-44. We own the tie breaker, so getting to 38 wins should be enough. That means we need to go 7-8 to finish the season. The next 3 are very winnable, so if we get those 3…4-8 to finish the season should do it.
Re: 2025 Play-In Watch(8 wins to go? Honestly 6 might do it)
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 5:13 pm
by virtual9mm
Split T wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 10:49 am
We’re just 1.5 games out of 10th(3 games ahead of Portland in 12th). Dallas is completely decimated at this point and probably has 5 wins max left in them, which would put them at 38-44. We own the tie breaker, so getting to 38 wins should be enough. That means we need to go 7-8 to finish the season. The next 3 are very winnable, so if we get those 3…4-8 to finish the season should do it.
If I had to guess, I think the Suns limp in and so some damage.
Re: 2025 Play-In Watch(8 wins to go? Honestly 6 might do it)
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 5:36 pm
by Cap
virtual9mm wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 5:13 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 10:49 am
We’re just 1.5 games out of 10th(3 games ahead of Portland in 12th). Dallas is completely decimated at this point and probably has 5 wins max left in them, which would put them at 38-44. We own the tie breaker, so getting to 38 wins should be enough. That means we need to go 7-8 to finish the season. The next 3 are very winnable, so if we get those 3…4-8 to finish the season should do it.
If I had to guess, I think the Suns limp in and so some damage.
Is winning the first play in game doing some damage?
How about winning two play in games and getting routed in the first round?
Winning two play in games, getting routed in the first round, and injuring somebody on OKC?
Re: 2025 Play-In Watch(8 wins to go? Honestly 6 might do it)
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:00 pm
by Split T
Cap wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 5:36 pm
virtual9mm wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 5:13 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 10:49 am
We’re just 1.5 games out of 10th(3 games ahead of Portland in 12th). Dallas is completely decimated at this point and probably has 5 wins max left in them, which would put them at 38-44. We own the tie breaker, so getting to 38 wins should be enough. That means we need to go 7-8 to finish the season. The next 3 are very winnable, so if we get those 3…4-8 to finish the season should do it.
If I had to guess, I think the Suns limp in and so some damage.
Is winning the first play in game doing some damage?
How about winning two play in games and getting routed in the first round?
Winning two play in games, getting routed in the first round, and injuring somebody on OKC?
Two play in wins and having a lead at any point in the 2nd half of the first round series with OKC is a win…
Honestly one win in the play in is a win at this point
Re: 2025 Play-In Watch(8 wins to go? Honestly 6 might do it)
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:18 pm
by Mori Chu
Split T wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 10:49 am
We’re just 1.5 games out of 10th(3 games ahead of Portland in 12th). Dallas is completely decimated at this point and probably has 5 wins max left in them, which would put them at 38-44. We own the tie breaker, so getting to 38 wins should be enough. That means we need to go 7-8 to finish the season. The next 3 are very winnable, so if we get those 3…4-8 to finish the season should do it.
I bet we'll be right on track to do it when KD goes down with his injury.
Re: 2025 Play-In Watch(8 wins to go? Honestly 6 might do it)
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:31 pm
by Superbone
Split T wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 10:49 am
We’re just 1.5 games out of 10th(3 games ahead of Portland in 12th). Dallas is completely decimated at this point and probably has 5 wins max left in them, which would put them at 38-44. We own the tie breaker, so getting to 38 wins should be enough. That means we need to go 7-8 to finish the season.
The next 3 are very winnable, so if we get those 3…4-8 to finish the season should do it.
What?! Chances are slim to beat the Lakers in LA.
Re: 2025 Play-In Watch(8 wins to go? Honestly 6 might do it)
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:36 pm
by Split T
Superbone wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:31 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 10:49 am
We’re just 1.5 games out of 10th(3 games ahead of Portland in 12th). Dallas is completely decimated at this point and probably has 5 wins max left in them, which would put them at 38-44. We own the tie breaker, so getting to 38 wins should be enough. That means we need to go 7-8 to finish the season.
The next 3 are very winnable, so if we get those 3…4-8 to finish the season should do it.
What?! Chances are slim to beat the Lakers in LA.
No LeBron
Re: 2025 Play-In Watch(8 wins to go? Honestly 6 might do it)
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:49 pm
by Superbone
Split T wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:36 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:31 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 10:49 am
We’re just 1.5 games out of 10th(3 games ahead of Portland in 12th). Dallas is completely decimated at this point and probably has 5 wins max left in them, which would put them at 38-44. We own the tie breaker, so getting to 38 wins should be enough. That means we need to go 7-8 to finish the season.
The next 3 are very winnable, so if we get those 3…4-8 to finish the season should do it.
What?! Chances are slim to beat the Lakers in LA.
No LeBron
OK, but Doncic is playing, right? Still don't think it's
very winnable. Unless we get more of what we got the other day but I really don't trust Bud to stick with it. Richards is coming back and I'll be surprised if Oso gets over 10 minutes.
Re: 2025 Play-In Watch(7 wins to go? Honestly 6 might do it)
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 10:11 pm
by Split T
Not sure about Luka…he didn’t play Friday, but I don’t think he’s really hurt. Might’ve been a b2b or something. It’s the toughest of the 4 games, but still a game we really need to be winning if we want to make the play in.