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Re: Suns News: Week 22 (3/17 - 3/23)
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:03 pm
by bajanguy008
What I find interesting that I don't think I seen many mention of last couple games is Point Book
In our last 3 games Book has 13, 11 and 6 dimes which could have easily gotten to near double digits again if it wasn't a blowout
Meanwhile our point guard acquisition has played well recently in some folks opinion and that is mainly down to shooting and nothing to do with running the offense. His asts totals are 4,5 and 4 in those games which to be fair is solid for bench minutes. He's hit 12 3pters though which I'm guessing leads the team
So after all the off season chatter about what the Suns need to unlock Book n KD and the Big 3
We're still back to square one with seemingly best option being have Book initiate
Re: Suns News: Week 22 (3/17 - 3/23)
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:05 pm
by bajanguy008
Cool
Let's get more of those plays
Re: Suns News: Week 22 (3/17 - 3/23)
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:47 pm
by Mori Chu
bajanguy008 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:03 pm
What I find interesting that I don't think I seen many mention of last couple games is Point Book
In our last 3 games Book has 13, 11 and 6 dimes which could have easily gotten to near double digits again if it wasn't a blowout
Meanwhile our point guard acquisition has played well recently in some folks opinion and that is mainly down to shooting and nothing to do with running the offense. His asts totals are 4,5 and 4 in those games which to be fair is solid for bench minutes. He's hit 12 3pters though which I'm guessing leads the team
So after all the off season chatter about what the Suns need to unlock Book n KD and the Big 3
We're still back to square one with seemingly best option being have Book initiate
It's less that Point Book is good. It's more that Point KD is much worse, and Point Tyus just dribbling it up and handing it off to Point KD is even even worse.
It's also that playing 2-3 of the "Big 3" with other guys who don't hustle or defend is a recipe to lose.
Point Book plus KD plus the young guys is an okay team. Not a contender, but maybe a team that could go .500 in a different stretch of the season. In the upcoming 10 games, it won't work; we are going to get demolished.
Re: Suns News: Week 22 (3/17 - 3/23)
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:22 pm
by bajanguy008
Think I will watch this full podcast before the game
Re: Suns News: Week 22 (3/17 - 3/23)
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:04 pm
by Superbone
bajanguy008 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:22 pm
Think I will watch this full podcast before the game
Yeah, it cut off just at the best part.
Re: Suns News: Week 22 (3/17 - 3/23)
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:22 pm
by Split T
Maybe we should try not taking the least amount of shots compared to our opponent.
Re: Suns News: Week 22 (3/17 - 3/23)
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:50 pm
by Superbone
Split T wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:22 pm
Maybe we should try not taking the least amount of shots compared to our opponent.
Maybe stop turning it over and not being outrebounded might help. Last two games have shown that to be true.
Re: Suns News: Week 22 (3/17 - 3/23)
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 3:30 am
by virtual9mm
Split T wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:22 pm
Maybe we should try not taking the least amount of shots compared to our opponent.
Really instructive -- without the stupid TOs the Suns would be winning a lot more games.
Re: Suns News: Week 22 (3/17 - 3/23)
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 6:12 am
by bajanguy008
Re: Suns News: Week 22 (3/17 - 3/23)
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 6:14 am
by bajanguy008
Superbone wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:50 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:22 pm
Maybe we should try not taking the least amount of shots compared to our opponent.
Maybe stop turning it over and not being outrebounded might help. Last two games have shown that to be true.
Other factors can be at play but yes turnovers has to be the main issue
Re: Suns News: Week 22 (3/17 - 3/23)
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 6:20 am
by Kryptonic
lol
Re: Suns News: Week 22 (3/17 - 3/23)
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 6:21 am
by Kryptonic
Just waiting for Bud to send him to the bench again for no reason.
Re: Suns News: Week 22 (3/17 - 3/23)
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:04 am
by Cap
Kryptonic wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 6:21 am
Just waiting for Bud to send him to the bench again for no reason.
I seriously gotta wonder if it’s Ish pushing this.
When Ish arrived he made a lot of foolish shortsighted moves. But we figured he could learn from his mistakes.
Now he goes on record saying that he doesn’t care what happens in 2030 and that he thinks it’s “crazy” to think about tomorrow because he wants to win today.
Bud’s choices are perfectly consistent with Ish’s expressed “it’s crazy to do things that can benefit us in the future” philosophy. And Ish is never going to learn because he doesn’t want to.
Re: Suns News: Week 22 (3/17 - 3/23)
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:31 am
by Superbone
Cap wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:04 am
And Ish is never going to learn because he doesn’t want to.
And you know this how?
Re: Suns News: Week 22 (3/17 - 3/23)
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:35 am
by TOO
Superbone wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:31 am
Cap wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:04 am
And Ish is never going to learn because he doesn’t want to.
And you know this how?
He's really mad at the owner for trying to win at all costs. Not sure if you've noticed.
Re: Suns News: Week 22 (3/17 - 3/23)
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:45 am
by Superbone
TOO wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:35 am
Superbone wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:31 am
Cap wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:04 am
And Ish is never going to learn because he doesn’t want to.
And you know this how?
He's really mad at the owner for trying to win at all costs. Not sure if you've noticed.
Oh, I've noticed. How could you not?
Re: Suns News: Week 22 (3/17 - 3/23)
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:57 am
by Mori Chu
TOO wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:35 am
He's really mad at the owner for trying to win at all costs. Not sure if you've noticed.
We should be mad. His incompetence and impatience have put us into a hole that will take us most of a decade to crawl out of. We are doomed, one of the NBA franchises with the worst future, thanks to Mat Ishbia. This is ample cause for any Suns fan to be mad, and for that anger to be directed largely at our new owner.
Re: Suns News: Week 22 (3/17 - 3/23)
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:02 am
by Cap
Superbone wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:31 am
Cap wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:04 am
And Ish is never going to learn because he doesn’t want to.
And you know this how?
Because he said so.
Re: Suns News: Week 22 (3/17 - 3/23)
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:22 am
by Cap
TOO wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:35 am
Superbone wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:31 am
Cap wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:04 am
And Ish is never going to learn because he doesn’t want to.
And you know this how?
He's really mad at the owner for trying to win at all costs. Not sure if you've noticed.
I’m mad at the owner for trading a decade’s worth of draft capital and several young talented players to assemble a team that’s probably going to miss the play in. If that’s what you call “trying to win,” I’d rather he didn’t try.
Re: Suns News: Week 22 (3/17 - 3/23)
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:23 am
by Carno
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:57 am
TOO wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:35 am
He's really mad at the owner for trying to win at all costs. Not sure if you've noticed.
We should be mad. His incompetence and impatience have put us into a hole that will take us most of a decade to crawl out of. We are doomed, one of the NBA franchises with the worst future, thanks to Mat Ishbia. This is ample cause for any Suns fan to be mad, and for that anger to be directed largely at our new owner.
I'm probably an outlier, but I disagree. Trading for KD and Beal were both valid contender building transactions. You can argue whether the trades cost too much, sure. You can argue about team fit, sure. Some can argue that they wouldn't have made the moves. However, strategically, these are valid moves. It's not like he traded Doncic for Street Clothes. They were gambles for sure, and based on results, Ishbia lost the gamble.
Most of the criticism levied by fans today is based on hindsight. At the time, these moves were mostly applauded, with a fair amount of concern about what happens if the team fails.
