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Re: Game Day: Suns (22-17) @ Grizzlies (25-11), Sun 1/11/15
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:26 pm
by LazarusLong
That explains why you lean to one side ...
Re: Game Day: Suns (22-17) @ Grizzlies (25-11), Sun 1/11/15
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:05 pm
by Cap
LazarusLong wrote:As GMs come and go, Bryan was OK. I believe he once won Exec of the Year.
Twice. And his father won it four times.
Re: Game Day: Suns (22-17) @ Grizzlies (25-11), Sun 1/11/15
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:17 pm
by Indy
LazarusLong wrote:That explains why you lean to one side ...
And why I can only run is circles.
Re: Game Day: Suns (22-17) @ Grizzlies (25-11), Sun 1/11/15
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:19 pm
by Ring_Wanted
BC was the architect responsible for the Nash era. He and his father hired Mike D after he failed in Denver and went hard after Nash with what at the time was considered a suicidal offer. Of course, also drafted Amare, Marion and Barbosa, traded for JJ and then got Diaw+ for him. I was livid when Sarver let him go to Toronto, but the writting was on the wall after Jerry resigned from his consultant role.
The selling of picks, I put it mainly on Sarver. Maybe D'Antoni wouldn't play rookies, but using them to dump contracts was helpful only to the owner's wallet, and let's not forget that it lasted not just through BC (#7 and #13 in 2004 used to create the cap space needed to sign Nash and Q), but above all when Mike was the nominal GM and during Kerr's tenure too.
Re: Game Day: Suns (22-17) @ Grizzlies (25-11), Sun 1/11/15
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:22 pm
by ShelC
David Griffin was running the FO as well. He was the "architect" behind the Marcus Banks signing.
Re: Game Day: Suns (22-17) @ Grizzlies (25-11), Sun 1/11/15
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:31 pm
by Ring_Wanted
Marcus Banks. Ugh.
Under my particular interpretation of the butterfly effect, that move was the cause of dumping KT and the picks.
Re: Game Day: Suns (22-17) @ Grizzlies (25-11), Sun 1/11/15
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:40 pm
by Dan H
Shabazz wrote:Dan H wrote:INFORMER wrote:SDC wrote:i wonder if bryan colangelo can be lured back to phx?
Bryan had his own share of screw-ups. He got the ball rolling on the perpetual draft mismanagement.
Tough to blame Colangelo when the coach refuses to play rookies or young players. I wish they had overriden D'antoni but it would have been tough given the streak of success we were having. It wasn't like we were losing or a .500 club.
Your chronology is off. D'Antoni and BC only overlapped for 2 drafts, the first of which came after D'Antoni had completed half a season as coach, and was pre-Nash. D'Antoni spent that entire half season playing young guys and certainly didn't have the cache to force his GM to not pick players. BC thought Deng and Iggy would be gone by their pick and stupidly traded the pick without preconditions of them being available.
The next draft, 2005, we packaged the Nate Rob pick with Q-Rich for Kurt Thomas. That wasn't a bad trade. The 30th pick in that draft, which was originally ours, was acquired originally by the Spurs in the trade for Barbosa - pre-D'Antoni.
By the 2006 draft (the Rondo one), BC had already resigned.
Not much history or evidence of Mean Mike D'Antoni forcing poor BC to trade away draft picks because he refused to play them.
Well, I do have plenty of grey in my hair. That's probably why I dis-remembered.
Re: Game Day: Suns (22-17) @ Grizzlies (25-11), Sun 1/11/15
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:42 pm
by Dan H
Indy wrote:LazarusLong wrote:That explains why you lean to one side ...
And why I can only run is circles.
Are you Happy's caddy?