All Things Ayton

[JeremyG]

We also don't need to rejoice in his failures, that's pretty low and I expect better from all but maybe a couple of you.

It proves "Hayte" was a real thing and not an exaggeration.

[JeremyG]

The way his performance is trending, even the people who were upset with the perceived low trade return will also be proven wrong.

Funny how nobody is talking about his great defense, high level of defensive intensity, and career high in rebounding in 24.7 MPG. (You know, all of the things we were hoping to get from him this season if he remained on the Suns.)

He got in foul trouble a lot early on last season as well trying to get the officials to adjust to him, and then he had to adjust eventually.

Nobody is talking about it because it's not true and that's obvious when watching the games, and "getting into foul trouble" is due to playing bad defense.

You must be watching last season's games with Nurkic or something.

I'm also tired of this rebounding BS. He's the tallest guy on the court, so he better damn well get the most rebounds. Yet you're over here making him out to be some relentless rebounder chasing down everything off of the rim. It's absurd.

Ayton rebounds = BS

Duren rebounds = not BS

Got it.

[specialsauce]

I love it when you resort to defending Ayton by comparing him to players not getting the max, it’s so sexy

[TOO]

Now do the blocks, and assists for Duren.

[Flagrant Fowl]

Ayton has been a poor defender in all three games this season. I've watched nearly every minute he's played. Pointing it out isn't being a hater, it's just understanding good basketball.

He's played well against Toronto tonight, so we're right at the peak of the Ayton rollercoaster at the moment.

[Superbone]

Ayton has been a poor defender in all three games this season. I've watched nearly every minute he's played. Pointing it out isn't being a hater, it's just understanding good basketball.

He's played well against Toronto tonight, so we're right at the peak of the Ayton rollercoaster at the moment.

Only 10 points but huge rebounding game with 23. 0-0 FTs again which is just crazy though. 1-1 after 4 games. Congrats to him though on the Blazers first win.

[Flagrant Fowl]

My comment about him playing well was focused on his defense and rebounding, you know, role player stuff.

The ship has sailed on him being an offensive force unless he's surrounded by All-NBA players who can set him up to catch and score.

[specialsauce]

Outstanding game for a role player

[Kryptonic]

Ayton has been a poor defender in all three games this season. I've watched nearly every minute he's played. Pointing it out isn't being a hater, it's just understanding good basketball.

He's played well against Toronto tonight, so we're right at the peak of the Ayton rollercoaster at the moment.

Only 10 points but huge rebounding game with 23. 0-0 FTs again which is just crazy though. 1-1 after 4 games. Congrats to him though on the Blazers first win.

Agree…. 23 boards isn’t anything to sneeze at. Credit where credit is due.

[Split T]

I honestly can't believe we're still talking about him. I've completely moved on in my brain and I never even think about him unless you guys bring him up on the board. He's no longer our problem. We also don't need to rejoice in his failures, that's pretty low and I expect better from all but maybe a couple of you.

I’m with you..I really don’t care anymore whether he does good or not. He’s not on the suns. I never hated him…seems like a good guy. Just didn’t trust him as a basketball player and am glad we moved on. Someday we will all move on as fans as well.

[Kryptonic]

[JeremyG]

Now do the blocks, and assists for Duren.

It wasn't a comparison of the players. It was a comparison of the biased narrative.

Duren gets 15 rebounds: "Oh look at Duren's rebounds, they are so beautiful, important, and extraordinary! There is nothing more valuable than dominating the boards!"

Ayton gets 15 rebounds: "Ewww look at Ayton's rebounds, they are so gross, ugly, and unnecessary! What could possibly be more useless than rebounding?!"

[Superbone]

Now do the blocks, and assists for Duren.

It wasn't a comparison of the players. It was a comparison of the biased narrative.

Duren gets 15 rebounds: "Oh look at Duren's rebounds, they are so beautiful, important, and extraordinary! There is nothing more valuable than dominating the boards!"

Ayton gets 15 rebounds: "Ewww look at Ayton's rebounds, they are so gross, ugly, and unnecessary! What could possibly be more useless than rebounding?!"

Yeah, that's exactly what we said. (Looks a couple posts above and sees two positive comments about Ayton's rebounding.)

[JeremyG]

Now do the blocks, and assists for Duren.

It wasn't a comparison of the players. It was a comparison of the biased narrative.

Duren gets 15 rebounds: "Oh look at Duren's rebounds, they are so beautiful, important, and extraordinary! There is nothing more valuable than dominating the boards!"

Ayton gets 15 rebounds: "Ewww look at Ayton's rebounds, they are so gross, ugly, and unnecessary! What could possibly be more useless than rebounding?!"

Yeah, that's exactly what we said. (Looks a couple posts above and sees two positive comments about Ayton's rebounding.)

The post(s) I was responding to were from before last night. I guess 23 rebounds is harder to discount.

[Superbone]

Now do the blocks, and assists for Duren.

It wasn't a comparison of the players. It was a comparison of the biased narrative.

Duren gets 15 rebounds: "Oh look at Duren's rebounds, they are so beautiful, important, and extraordinary! There is nothing more valuable than dominating the boards!"

Ayton gets 15 rebounds: "Ewww look at Ayton's rebounds, they are so gross, ugly, and unnecessary! What could possibly be more useless than rebounding?!"

Yeah, that's exactly what we said. (Looks a couple posts above and sees two positive comments about Ayton's rebounding.)

The post(s) I was responding to were from before last night. I guess 23 rebounds is harder to discount.

Yeah, the 23 boards is more than he ever had with the Suns.

[JeremyG]

Now do the blocks, and assists for Duren.

It wasn't a comparison of the players. It was a comparison of the biased narrative.

Duren gets 15 rebounds: "Oh look at Duren's rebounds, they are so beautiful, important, and extraordinary! There is nothing more valuable than dominating the boards!"

Ayton gets 15 rebounds: "Ewww look at Ayton's rebounds, they are so gross, ugly, and unnecessary! What could possibly be more useless than rebounding?!"

Yeah, that's exactly what we said. (Looks a couple posts above and sees two positive comments about Ayton's rebounding.)

The post(s) I was responding to were from before last night. I guess 23 rebounds is harder to discount.

Yeah, the 23 boards is more than he ever had with the Suns.

So far, despite averaging a career low (by far) in minutes, he's averaging a career high in steals, a career high in "stocks," and a career high (by far) in rebounds (2nd in the NBA, just behind Sabonis).

[Kryptonic]

Why are his minutes so low? Just curious... Have only caught a little here and there of the blazers.

[iLLmatic]

Why are his minutes so low? Just curious... Have only caught a little here and there of the blazers.

He got into foul trouble the first game. I’m not sure what happened the other games.

[Superbone]

Why are his minutes so low? Just curious... Have only caught a little here and there of the blazers.

Nothing new to Ayton. Coach holding him back. Preventing him from dominAyton. Everybody has it out to get him.

[JeremyG]

Why are his minutes so low? Just curious... Have only caught a little here and there of the blazers.

Foul trouble the first 2 games. Foul trouble + blowout the third game, with Grant and Ayton sitting the entire fourth quarter before their back-to-back game. Last night was his first game where he played more than 30 minutes.