Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

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O_Gardino wrote:
In2ition wrote:I just read a piece by Raptors Raptures that suggested the Suns take a trade of 9, 27, and next years 2nd rounder for #4.
http://raptorsrapture.com/2016/06/13/ra ... 7-equal-4/
Only if we are getting rid of 13 and 28 in another trade.
It just doesn't seem like enough to move down 5 spots, but I also agree that it seems silly to have 4 1sts.
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What? We trade down from 4 to 9 in order to pick up 27, when we already have 28 and 34? How does that make sense?
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Right? We probably are trying to get rid of 28th, the way it is.
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I think we're more likely to turn 4 picks to 3. If we pick all 4, I think 28+34 are both draft and stash, unless someone we love drops.

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Split T wrote:I think we're more likely to turn 4 picks to 3. If we pick all 4, I think 28+34 are both draft and stash, unless someone we love drops.
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As the draft gets closer, I'm starting to think that Bender is going to drop.
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To #4? OK, I like him.

Who's going #3? Murray?
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It seems that Gambo was eluding to Chriss being the #3.
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Can I just tell you how much I hate the whole, "we can't bring in 4 rookies" thing? The only thing that sucks about it is that they all come up for extensions / become RFAs at the same time. Having lots of interesting young talent on your roster when you are rebuilding is a good thing.
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We can bring in four rookies. Arguably we even should. But I wouldn't bet on it.
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The Blazers bring in 3 or 4 rookies every year, and they haven't been able to get 2 all-stars at the same time. Nor have they gotten a HOF caliber player.

Lot's of rookies makes for an interesting team, but not a championship one.

You could argue that Suns management should aim to be more like the Blazers, since the Blazers have been consistently better than the Suns since Nash left. But you won't get a ring bringing in a ton of rooks.
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All rookies matter.
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Twolves trying to aquire Jimmy Butler with a package revolving around 5.

Shoot I'd give up 4 for Butler. Although the injury is a little concerning...
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O_Gardino wrote:The Blazers bring in 3 or 4 rookies every year, and they haven't been able to get 2 all-stars at the same time. Nor have they gotten a HOF caliber player.

Lot's of rookies makes for an interesting team, but not a championship one.

You could argue that Suns management should aim to be more like the Blazers, since the Blazers have been consistently better than the Suns since Nash left. But you won't get a ring bringing in a ton of rooks.
You're also not going to win a championship trading for and signing mediocre veterans.


It's all about finding the right talent. That's it. Whatever way you can. The best avenue for the Suns is through the draft. Period. Arbitrarily putting a cap on the number of rookies you bring isn't going to win get you closer to a championship either. If anything, it is going to lead to more bad trades and pointless free agency signings.

The Blazers ARE NOT failing to win a championship because they bring in a lot of rookies. That's an overly simplistic argument to make.

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Anyone else worried we trade the #4 for Kevin Love? He probably has 6 or 7 good years left in him, and we would use him differently than the Cavs do but his performance in the playoffs has me concerned. Two posters at RealGM told me I was crazy for thinking Love could get a #3 or #4 pick in this draft. His value has "plummeted." I disagree and I think it's the kind of move McDonough would make.
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I'm not particularly fond of anyone at 4 but the 2 guys we probably dont need (Murray/Hield) so you could probably sell me on taking a flyer on Love. I'm not too worried about his playoff performance tbh, we won't make it next year with him anyway.
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INFORMER wrote:It's all about finding the right talent. That's it. Whatever way you can. The best avenue for the Suns is through the draft. Period. Arbitrarily putting a cap on the number of rookies you bring isn't going to win get you closer to a championship either. If anything, it is going to lead to more bad trades and pointless free agency signings.

The Blazers ARE NOT failing to win a championship because they bring in a lot of rookies. That's an overly simplistic argument to make.
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In2ition wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:
In2ition wrote:I just read a piece by Raptors Raptures that suggested the Suns take a trade of 9, 27, and next years 2nd rounder for #4.
http://raptorsrapture.com/2016/06/13/ra ... 7-equal-4/
Only if we are getting rid of 13 and 28 in another trade.
It just doesn't seem like enough to move down 5 spots, but I also agree that it seems silly to have 4 1sts.
what, is mcdo planning to blow the team up?

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carey wrote:Anyone else worried we trade the #4 for Kevin Love? He probably has 6 or 7 good years left in him, and we would use him differently than the Cavs do but his performance in the playoffs has me concerned. Two posters at RealGM told me I was crazy for thinking Love could get a #3 or #4 pick in this draft. His value has "plummeted." I disagree and I think it's the kind of move McDonough would make.
I dont love love. he should have stayed where he belonged.

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The Bobster wrote:
INFORMER wrote:It's all about finding the right talent. That's it. Whatever way you can. The best avenue for the Suns is through the draft. Period. Arbitrarily putting a cap on the number of rookies you bring isn't going to win get you closer to a championship either. If anything, it is going to lead to more bad trades and pointless free agency signings.

The Blazers ARE NOT failing to win a championship because they bring in a lot of rookies. That's an overly simplistic argument to make.
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