Suns News: The Offseason (2016)

[SDC]

Anyone else worried we trade the #4 for Kevin Love? He probably has 6 or 7 good years left in him, and we would use him differently than the Cavs do

how would the suns use him differently?

[Shabazz]

I'd seriously look into getting into the Jimmy Butler business.

[JustWinBaby]

Anyone else worried we trade the #4 for Kevin Love? He probably has 6 or 7 good years left in him, and we would use him differently than the Cavs do

how would the suns use him differently?

I really do not see the fascination with Kevin Love.

[ShelC]

People must be forgetting how good KLove is in the post and how well he can pass the ball. Not advocating a trade for him or saying he'd be a good fit here, just that the Cavs have marginalized him in a sense.

[ShelC]

Chad Ford is posting trade scenarios on insider with a Knicks-Cavs-Suns deal. I'm thinking Cavs get Melo and Chandler, Knicks get Knight and change, we get Love.

[carey]

People must be forgetting how good KLove is in the post and how well he can pass the ball. Not advocating a trade for him or saying he'd be a good fit here, just that the Cavs have marginalized him in a sense.

At the end of the '14 season he was dropping 40 point 15 rebound games all over the place. So he's a complete non-factor 2 years later at the old age of 27? Makes no sense to me. Something is up with Cleveland (LeBron) and him. I guarantee a new team would make all the difference.

[ShelC]

It's typical. Guys down through down years and fall off the radar, fans and media write them off and then they bounce back.

[In2ition]

Chad Ford is posting trade scenarios on insider with a Knicks-Cavs-Suns deal. I'm thinking Cavs get Melo and Chandler, Knicks get Knight and change, we get Love.

Here is his post:
The massive three-teamer

Knicks send: Carmelo Anthony and Robin Lopez to Cleveland
Cavaliers send: Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Mo Williams and Sasha Kaun to Phoenix
Suns send: Eric Bledsoe to Cleveland; Brandon Knight, Alex Len, P.J. Tucker, Archie Goodwin and the Nos. 4 and 13 picks to New York

Why the Cavs do it: If the Cavs fail to beat the Warriors in the Finals, it might be time to make some changes. Love still seems like an awkward fit. Irving is special but hasn't clicked consistently with LeBron James the last two years, despite Irving's incredible scoring display in Monday's Game 5.

This deal brings in two players LeBron has wanted to play with for a while: Anthony and Bledsoe. Would this be a talent upgrade? Maybe, maybe not.

But chemistry seems to be a significant issue in Cleveland and the hope would be for a trade like this to improve the team's synergy -- and its chances to win a title. Also, Lopez would be a serviceable big man to help control the paint.

Why the Suns do it: Owner Robert Sarver has been eager to avoid a total rebuild in Phoenix. This would give him a chance to make a big splash right now. Irving has a higher ceiling than Bledsoe and is two years younger. Love would fill a huge gap at the 4.

Most importantly, it also allows the Suns to do this while still hanging on to Devin Booker, whom they are very high on. With Knight departing in this trade, Booker could step into the starting lineup for Phoenix right away.

Why the Knicks do it: First of all, Anthony has the ability to veto any trades. But given his friendship with LeBron and his desire to compete for an NBA championship, it's quite possible he would endorse this deal.

The Knicks would get multiple pieces for Melo and speed up the rebuild around Kristaps Porzingis. The big prize would be the No. 4 pick in the draft. That pick should be able to net them Kris Dunn, Jamal Murray, Marquese Chriss, Jaylen Brown or Buddy Hield.

The No. 13 pick should land a player like Dejounte Murray, Wade Baldwin or Furkan Korkmaz. In short, there's a lot of talent there. Len was the No. 5 pick in 2013 and still has terrific upside. Goodwin is only 21 and a solid scorer.

While this trade wouldn't improve the Knicks' record by much next season, it would give them a solid foundation for building a contender down the road. Knicks fans might hate rebuilding, but this is the way to go.

[carey]

I don't know about that trade. We're giving up all our youth and assets except for Booker and Warren.

So our line-up is Irving-Booker-Warren-Love-Chandler? On paper that will win you 50 games probably, but then what? Also, that's an awful defensive team. We'd have to spend some money on a bench. Maybe Batum, bring back Teletovic or go after RyNo.

I think I'm still solidly in team build through the draft versus team cash in everything for borderline star players.

[In2ition]

I don't know about that trade. We're giving up all our youth and assets except for Booker and Warren.

So our line-up is Irving-Booker-Warren-Love-Chandler? On paper that will win you 50 games probably, but then what? Also, that's an awful defensive team. We'd have to spend some money on a bench. Maybe Batum, bring back Teletovic or go after RyNo.

I think I'm still solidly in team build through the draft versus team cash in everything for borderline star players.

I'm with you. If the goal is to make the playoffs, then this might do it, but shouldn't the goal be to build a team that can compete for the title eventually?

[EDC]

I agree. It is a really bad time to be cashing in our youth for relevance now. The Warriors aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Our best bet is to keep building through the draft.

[carey]

DX has Ulis dropping to us at 34. I'd love it if that happened. They have us taking Bender and Deyonta Davis right now. I still think if we draft Bender we go Valentine (who they have dropping to #23) but it's possible we go Damian Jones (#22.)

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2016/

[In2ition]

If the Suns can get Damian Jones at 28, and Ulis at 34, they just might trade do the Chad Ford trade.

[In2ition]

Then they might try to convince Bogdan to come over this year and sign Barnes. I don't see this close to happening though.

[Ring_Wanted]

I agree. It is a really bad time to be cashing in our youth for relevance now. The Warriors aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Our best bet is to keep building through the draft.

Agreed. But at the same time if you can get a jump in quality while keeping Booker and one of #4/Warren, I think you have to take it.

[SDC]

People must be forgetting how good KLove is in the post

his best FG (for a single season) was 47% in minny. how good was he in the post, really?

[Split T]

People must be forgetting how good KLove is in the post

his best FG (for a single season) was 47% in minny. how good was he in the post, really?

He shot a lot of 3's, his overall fg% doesn't say much about his ability to score in the post.However, looking at basketball reference, his shooting numbers from inside 10 feet don't indicate he was that good in the post.

[SDC]

People must be forgetting how good KLove is in the post

his best FG (for a single season) was 47% in minny. how good was he in the post, really?

He shot a lot of 3's, his overall fg% doesn't say much about his ability to score in the post.However, looking at basketball reference, his shooting numbers from inside 10 feet don't indicate he was that good in the post.

goran dragic was better in the post.

[carey]

Happy Birthday Oleksiy. He turns 23 today. There are guys getting drafted next Thursday almost as old as he is.

[Superbone]

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