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Not so sure about that. Seems like a drop off between 2 an 3. Don’t know that 1-4 are in the same tier.INFORMER wrote:All the Suns need is a top 4 pick. Doesn't matter which one.
Eye of the beholder.Superbone wrote:Not so sure about that. Seems like a drop off between 2 an 3. Don’t know that 1-4 are in the same tier.INFORMER wrote:All the Suns need is a top 4 pick. Doesn't matter which one.
Shhh..Shabazz wrote:Informer/TOO, if we get #4, it's really tough to say if Bamba is in that slot on the Suns' draft board. I imagine their top two in some order is Ayton/Doncic. Then I'd guess Bagley. After that, who knows. I could see it being JJJ or even Trae Young.
[youtube][/youtube]Superbone wrote:Yup. Expect the worst and hope to be pleasantly surprised.iLLmatic wrote:It's going to happen. Just as long as we all prepare ourselves for it we'll be fine.Superbone wrote:Exactly. That's my biggest fear.Gladiator wrote:With the 4th pick in the draft the Phoenix Suns select.....In2ition wrote: I've already prepared myself for that and love 2-3 players, haha.
Somebody pointed out how mature and composed Bamba sounds in interviews, and we know Sarver is a sucker for guys who interview well.TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Shhh..Shabazz wrote:Informer/TOO, if we get #4, it's really tough to say if Bamba is in that slot on the Suns' draft board. I imagine their top two in some order is Ayton/Doncic. Then I'd guess Bagley. After that, who knows. I could see it being JJJ or even Trae Young.
I can't see JJJ after the 2 projects we just drafted at the same position. Young is a possibility as much as I don't like it. i will be mad if we pick either of those 2 tbh. I think Bamba will separate himself during workouts anyway.
You see Young as more mature than Bamba? I like both players OK, and they obvs have opposite skill sets, but I don't see one as more ready than the other.In2ition wrote:I'll be honest, I'd go with Young at 4, just because I don't want to wait for Bamba to mature. I'm skeptical of JJJ and Porter plays the same position as Warren, Jackson, Bender or Chriss. I think Young can be a difference maker, but would be disappointed in not getting a top 2 pick, as I could see the Suns moving back up for Young.
Jontay Porter will probably be available with our later pick, and he really knows how to play.INFORMER wrote:JJJ would be tremendous in tandem with Jontay Porter.
Physical maturity wise, it's a push for either position. I just think it takes a lot more strength and maturity to play the center position and more skill to play the pg position. I just think Young's skill level makes him more ready to contribute immediately than Bamba's level of skill + physical maturity for a center. Does that make sense?O_Gardino wrote:You see Young as more mature than Bamba? I like both players OK, and they obvs have opposite skill sets, but I don't see one as more ready than the other.In2ition wrote:I'll be honest, I'd go with Young at 4, just because I don't want to wait for Bamba to mature. I'm skeptical of JJJ and Porter plays the same position as Warren, Jackson, Bender or Chriss. I think Young can be a difference maker, but would be disappointed in not getting a top 2 pick, as I could see the Suns moving back up for Young.
OK, I understand what you mean now.In2ition wrote:Physical maturity wise, it's a push for either position. I just think it takes a lot more strength and maturity to play the center position and more skill to play the pg position. I just think Young's skill level makes him more ready to contribute immediately than Bamba's level of skill + physical maturity for a center. Does that make sense?O_Gardino wrote:You see Young as more mature than Bamba? I like both players OK, and they obvs have opposite skill sets, but I don't see one as more ready than the other.In2ition wrote:I'll be honest, I'd go with Young at 4, just because I don't want to wait for Bamba to mature. I'm skeptical of JJJ and Porter plays the same position as Warren, Jackson, Bender or Chriss. I think Young can be a difference maker, but would be disappointed in not getting a top 2 pick, as I could see the Suns moving back up for Young.
I'll admit that it's entirely possible that Bamba becomes more valuable to their team and winning in 3 yrs +. Or it could be the other way around too.
I hope he does a better job of that than Len did. Len was a force blocking shots when he first got here, but then in the name of positional defense he blocked fewer & fewer shots until he became barely a threat.O_Gardino wrote: I was thinking about maturity more in terms of decision making. Trae will have to learn when to not shoot and let someone else run the offense. Bamba will have to learn when to stay on the floor and not go for the block, etc.
I'm not to worried about Young's decision making and shot selection. He was much more judicious when he played with MPJ and Jontay when they won the EYBL title prior to his Senior year. It should be easier for him to easy off his aggression with better teammates. Better than having to beg him to be more aggressive like Bender, haha.O_Gardino wrote:OK, I understand what you mean now.In2ition wrote:Physical maturity wise, it's a push for either position. I just think it takes a lot more strength and maturity to play the center position and more skill to play the pg position. I just think Young's skill level makes him more ready to contribute immediately than Bamba's level of skill + physical maturity for a center. Does that make sense?O_Gardino wrote:You see Young as more mature than Bamba? I like both players OK, and they obvs have opposite skill sets, but I don't see one as more ready than the other.In2ition wrote:I'll be honest, I'd go with Young at 4, just because I don't want to wait for Bamba to mature. I'm skeptical of JJJ and Porter plays the same position as Warren, Jackson, Bender or Chriss. I think Young can be a difference maker, but would be disappointed in not getting a top 2 pick, as I could see the Suns moving back up for Young.
I'll admit that it's entirely possible that Bamba becomes more valuable to their team and winning in 3 yrs +. Or it could be the other way around too.
I was thinking about maturity more in terms of decision making. Trae will have to learn when to not shoot and let someone else run the offense. Bamba will have to learn when to stay on the floor and not go for the block, etc.