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Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:52 pm
by Shabazz
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:50 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:42 pm
Smells like DAJ will be on the move fairly soon. Could the Clippers be a quiet tanker this year?
Gortat is useful for them. Harris is good. Lou Williams is a fantastic scorer. SGA probably isn't ready, but he's a nice fit with Lou. Gallo at the 3, but he'll almost definitely get hurt.
SGA/Beverley
Lou/Robinson
Gallo
Harris
Gortat
That's good for 35-40 wins
That may be the second worst or worst team in the West, though.
Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:52 pm
by Split T
Not sure about the trade from Washington's perspective... They're really small. Who do they have at the 4/5 besides Markieff? Maybe shift Porter to the 4, but Markieff can't play the 5...
Wall/Satoransky
Beal/Rivers
Oubre/Brown
Porter/Markieff
???
Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:54 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Shabazz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:52 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:50 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:42 pm
Smells like DAJ will be on the move fairly soon. Could the Clippers be a quiet tanker this year?
Gortat is useful for them. Harris is good. Lou Williams is a fantastic scorer. SGA probably isn't ready, but he's a nice fit with Lou. Gallo at the 3, but he'll almost definitely get hurt.
SGA/Beverley
Lou/Robinson
Gallo
Harris
Gortat
That's good for 35-40 wins
That may be the second worst or worst team in the West, though.
Exactly. I see a max of 30 wins.
Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:54 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:52 pm
Not sure about the trade from Washington's perspective... They're really small. Who do they have at the 4/5 besides M******f? Maybe shift Porter to the 4, but M******f can't play the 5...
Wall/Satoransky
Beal/Rivers
Oubre/Brown
Porter/M******f
???
I really hope someone offers Capella the max.
Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:55 pm
by Split T
Shabazz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:52 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:50 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:42 pm
Smells like DAJ will be on the move fairly soon. Could the Clippers be a quiet tanker this year?
Gortat is useful for them. Harris is good. Lou Williams is a fantastic scorer. SGA probably isn't ready, but he's a nice fit with Lou. Gallo at the 3, but he'll almost definitely get hurt.
SGA/Beverley
Lou/Robinson
Gallo
Harris
Gortat
That's good for 35-40 wins
That may be the second worst or worst team in the West, though.
Individually I can see each team being better than them (except Sacramento) but no chance all of LAL/Dallas/Memphis/Phoenix end up better unless they throw in the towel early and lose in purpose.
Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:09 pm
by carey
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:50 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:42 pm
Smells like DAJ will be on the move fairly soon. Could the Clippers be a quiet tanker this year?
Gortat is useful for them. Harris is good. Lou Williams is a fantastic scorer. SGA probably isn't ready, but he's a nice fit with Lou. Gallo at the 3, but he'll almost definitely get hurt.
SGA/Beverley
Lou/Robinson
Gallo
Harris
Gortat
That's good for 35-40 wins
Ok... wait a second. How many wins do you see the Suns getting then? Because if they don't have DAJ then I like our roster better.
Our top 9 vs their top 9:
Booker - Lou
Jackson - Gallo
Warren - Harris
Ayton - Gortat
Knight - Beverley
Bridges - Robinson
Bender - Montrezl
Chriss - Dekker
Okobo - Robinson
Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:14 pm
by carey
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:54 pm
I really hope someone offers Capella the max.
It's going to be Dallas
unless New Orleans doesn't give Boogie his max, in which case he signs in Dallas.
Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:17 pm
by Split T
carey wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:09 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:50 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:42 pm
Smells like DAJ will be on the move fairly soon. Could the Clippers be a quiet tanker this year?
Gortat is useful for them. Harris is good. Lou Williams is a fantastic scorer. SGA probably isn't ready, but he's a nice fit with Lou. Gallo at the 3, but he'll almost definitely get hurt.
SGA/Beverley
Lou/Robinson
Gallo
Harris
Gortat
That's good for 35-40 wins
Ok... wait a second. How many wins do you see the Suns getting then? Because if they don't have DAJ then I like our roster better.
Our top 9 vs their top 9:
Booker - Lou
Jackson - Gallo
Warren - Harris
Ayton - Gortat
Knight - Beverley
Bridges - Robinson
Bender - Montrezl
Chriss - Dekker
Okobo - Robinson
This is basically the same team that won 42 games last year. They flipped Griffin for Harris midseason, but they played about the same level... Do you think going from Jordan to Gortat is a 10 win decrease?
Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:18 pm
by carey
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:52 pm
Not sure about the trade from Washington's perspective... They're really small. Who do they have at the 4/5 besides Markieff? Maybe shift Porter to the 4, but Markieff can't play the 5...
Wall/Satoransky
Beal/Rivers
Oubre/Brown
Porter/Markieff
???
They have Ian Mahinmi and Jason Smith that can log time at C as well as Markieff in small line-ups.
Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:22 pm
by Split T
carey wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:18 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:52 pm
Not sure about the trade from Washington's perspective... They're really small. Who do they have at the 4/5 besides M******f? Maybe shift Porter to the 4, but M******f can't play the 5...
Wall/Satoransky
Beal/Rivers
Oubre/Brown
Porter/M******f
???
They have Ian Mahinmi and Jason Smith that can log time at C as well as M******f in small line-ups.
Probably works in the East, though not against Philly
Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:24 pm
by carey
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:17 pm
This is basically the same team that won 42 games last year. They flipped Griffin for Harris midseason, but they played about the same level... Do you think going from Jordan to Gortat is a 10 win decrease?
Probably not but those kind of things are not easily quantifiable. They could play better without Bradley (who didn't play great for LAC prior to his sports hernia) and DAJ. The Clippers were 17-16 post trade, so slightly ahead of .500 ball. Still, which roster do you prefer?
Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:39 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Marcin Gortat is not a starter level player anymore. He's serviceable in a 20mpg backup role, but more than that and he's on a team headed for the top of the lottery.
Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:39 pm
by Split T
carey wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:24 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:17 pm
This is basically the same team that won 42 games last year. They flipped Griffin for Harris midseason, but they played about the same level... Do you think going from Jordan to Gortat is a 10 win decrease?
Probably not but those kind of things are not easily quantifiable. They could play better without Bradley (who didn't play great for LAC prior to his sports hernia) and DAJ. The Clippers were 17-16 post trade, so slightly ahead of .500 ball. Still, which roster do you prefer?
Between ours and theirs? Ours for sure... But that's mostly for future value. I like our talent level..I think we'll still have a lot of youth moments that ultimately keep us from winning more than 35 games... Although my opinion might change after we see what free agency and trades do to our roster.
Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:46 pm
by Superbone
carey wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:09 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:50 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:42 pm
Smells like DAJ will be on the move fairly soon. Could the Clippers be a quiet tanker this year?
Gortat is useful for them. Harris is good. Lou Williams is a fantastic scorer. SGA probably isn't ready, but he's a nice fit with Lou. Gallo at the 3, but he'll almost definitely get hurt.
SGA/Beverley
Lou/Robinson
Gallo
Harris
Gortat
That's good for 35-40 wins
Ok... wait a second. How many wins do you see the Suns getting then? Because if they don't have DAJ then I like our roster better.
Our top 9 vs their top 9:
Booker - Lou
Jackson - Gallo
Warren - Harris
Ayton - Gortat
Knight - Beverley
Bridges - Robinson
Bender - Montrezl
Chriss - Dekker
Okobo - Robinson
What about Teodosic? Boban?
Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:51 pm
by Wally_West
https://mobile.twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1011298176731680770
Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:01 pm
by specialsauce
Please, PLEASE just say no to Smart.
Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:29 pm
by Shabazz
specialsauce wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:01 pm
Please, PLEASE just say no to Smart.
I find myself selling.... myself on the idea.
Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:34 pm
by Furlanfufi
Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:46 pm
carey wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:09 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:50 pm
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:42 pm
Smells like DAJ will be on the move fairly soon. Could the Clippers be a quiet tanker this year?
Gortat is useful for them. Harris is good. Lou Williams is a fantastic scorer. SGA probably isn't ready, but he's a nice fit with Lou. Gallo at the 3, but he'll almost definitely get hurt.
SGA/Beverley
Lou/Robinson
Gallo
Harris
Gortat
That's good for 35-40 wins
Ok... wait a second. How many wins do you see the Suns getting then? Because if they don't have DAJ then I like our roster better.
Our top 9 vs their top 9:
Booker - Lou
Jackson - Gallo
Warren - Harris
Ayton - Gortat
Knight - Beverley
Bridges - Robinson
Bender - Montrezl
Chriss - Dekker
Okobo - Robinson
What about Teodosic? Boban?
I would love to see Boban getting 20 minutes per game. Only for entertainment.
Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:35 pm
by specialsauce
Shabazz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:29 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:01 pm
Please, PLEASE just say no to Smart.
I find myself selling.... myself on the idea.
Ugh God. A point guard that’s not a great distributor or scorer who wants 15 million per year. Disgusting. We have Shaq Harrison who is a bargain. Those players are a dime a dozen in the G league. I wouldn’t even want him for the MLE
Re: Around the League: 2018 Offseason
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:53 pm
by Shabazz
specialsauce wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:35 pm
Shabazz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:29 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:01 pm
Please, PLEASE just say no to Smart.
I find myself selling.... myself on the idea.
Ugh God. A point guard that’s not a great distributor or scorer who wants 15 million per year. Disgusting. We have Shaq Harrison who is a bargain. Those players are a dime a dozen in the G league. I wouldn’t even want him for the MLE
He wouldn't be my preference. I just love his defense next to Booker and his distributing is underrated. He's an unconscionably bad shooter though and we've got enough of those.
I like Beverly, Exum and VanVleet more as fits.