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Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 6:54 am
by Drewsprocket
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 4:37 pm
I've said for the past 16 months that Beal shouldn't start if the Suns are also starting a Point Guard. Nurkic vacillating between viable and absolute dog shit from night to night only made that more obvious.
If Beal can't comprehend this situation, there's no hope -- his basketball ego is untenable on this roster.
Gawd. You were right.
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:00 am
by ShelC
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:09 am
by Kryptonic
Dumb idea but what if we stand pat on the roster and just sign jimmy this summer? Is there a 3rd or 4th apron Ishbias looking to go for?

Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:11 am
by ShelC
If Beal would legit embrace the 6th man role longterm, I'd rather have him here than trade for and extend Jimmy.
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:36 am
by Mori Chu
Kryptonic wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:09 am
Dumb idea but what if we stand pat on the roster and just sign jimmy this summer? Is there a 3rd or 4th apron Ishbias looking to go for?
Sign him to what? The minimum? We are in the 2nd tax apron with no cap space. Or are you thinking we let KD walk to free up $50m?

Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:16 am
by Kryptonic
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:36 am
Kryptonic wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:09 am
Dumb idea but what if we stand pat on the roster and just sign jimmy this summer? Is there a 3rd or 4th apron Ishbias looking to go for?
Sign him to what? The minimum? We are in the 2nd tax apron with no cap space. Or are you thinking we let KD walk to free up $50m?
I forgot about the second apron rule that you can only do limited deals to basically fill out a roster. Was thinking ishbia could just sign whatever empty check he wanted to. Stupid rules.
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:18 am
by Kryptonic
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:33 am
by Split T
It does kinda seem like if we can find a spot for Beal that Jimmy could be ours.
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:34 am
by TOO
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:33 am
It does kinda seem like if we can find a spot for Beal that Jimmy could be ours.
Extending Jimmy and KD til they are 40, what could go wrong?
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:35 am
by Split T
40 is the new 30…at least that’s what I’m telling myself
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:35 am
by Kryptonic
TOO wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:34 am
Split T wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:33 am
It does kinda seem like if we can find a spot for Beal that Jimmy could be ours.
Extending Jimmy and KD til they are 40, what could go wrong?
We will just transition to a wheelchair basketball team. Pfffft load time.
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:46 am
by JeremyG
What happened to Jimmy saying he could be happy “anywhere but Miami”?
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:48 am
by TOO
JeremyG wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:46 am
What happened to Jimmy saying he could be happy “anywhere but Miami”?
He lied, athletes do it a lot.
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:58 am
by specialsauce
I keep telling yall..... ya don't listen
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:27 pm
by Mori Chu
If Miami doesn't want a superstar who can give you 25 points OFF THE BENCH, I don't know what to tell them.
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:35 pm
by Superbone
JeremyG wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:46 am
What happened to Jimmy saying he could be happy “anywhere but Miami”?
Follow the money!
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:48 pm
by Cap
Kryptonic wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:16 am
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:36 am
Kryptonic wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:09 am
Dumb idea but what if we stand pat on the roster and just sign jimmy this summer? Is there a 3rd or 4th apron Ishbias looking to go for?
Sign him to what? The minimum? We are in the 2nd tax apron with no cap space. Or are you thinking we let KD walk to free up $50m?
I forgot about the second apron rule that you can only do limited deals to basically fill out a roster. Was thinking ishbia could just sign whatever empty check he wanted to. Stupid rules.
The rules could be improved…
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:51 pm
by Superbone
Cap wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:48 pm
Kryptonic wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:16 am
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:36 am
Kryptonic wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:09 am
Dumb idea but what if we stand pat on the roster and just sign jimmy this summer? Is there a 3rd or 4th apron Ishbias looking to go for?
Sign him to what? The minimum? We are in the 2nd tax apron with no cap space. Or are you thinking we let KD walk to free up $50m?
I forgot about the second apron rule that you can only do limited deals to basically fill out a roster. Was thinking ishbia could just sign whatever empty check he wanted to. Stupid rules.
The rules could be improved…
Too bad nobody has any ideas on that.

Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:18 pm
by Carno
Jimmy doesn't have as much control has Chris Haynes implies. Assuming he opts out, where is he going to go? No contender could offer him $50M, so he takes a big pay cut (which I doubt he would do) or signs with Utah (who probably doesn't want him). It's all posturing.
Unless Miami wants to just let him walk, the best offer they get is Beal. Straight up or maybe with a 2nd. No 2031 first.
Re: Jimmy Butler trade rumors
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:20 pm
by Carno
BTW, I think its Phoenix's unwillingness to give up the 2031 first that is holding up the deal. Miami is posturing to get it, and Suns are holding firm, which I think is the right move. Let Miami give in.