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All Things Ayton
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It’s not all bad with Ayton. We all know he’s a cool dude. The kid could have been a little more excited though. 

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So it was silly.Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 4:17 pmI don't think so. He has the physical gifts to do so. Just not the drive and determination. That's why it was always tantalizing but now most of us see that that will never change.specialsauce wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 12:35 pmIs it time to declare this debate over. Mr Max will never get another max deal. That talk about averaging 25/10 was silly.
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Looking forward to it. Long way to get to even 18 ppgJeremyG wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:48 pmNope. We are comparing full-season averages.specialsauce wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 12:55 pmIs it time?JeremyG wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:15 pmHow about this? If that happens, I will admit I was wrong about Deandre Ayton.specialsauce wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:12 pmI can’t wait to hear the excuses when his averages are all the same next year if not worse
Last year: 18/10/1.7/0.8 with 0.6 steals in 30.4 mpg
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DA and JJJ are both overpaid. Yawn. Boring argument.
Nurks production for his contract is right in balance.
This isn’t even a debate.
Nurks production for his contract is right in balance.
This isn’t even a debate.
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That argument died long ago. He is an incredibly gifted person ability wise, probably a cool dude, but not driven to be a star. He earned himself his max deal at the last second. There won’t be a second max.specialsauce wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:15 pmSo it was silly.Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 4:17 pmI don't think so. He has the physical gifts to do so. Just not the drive and determination. That's why it was always tantalizing but now most of us see that that will never change.specialsauce wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 12:35 pmIs it time to declare this debate over. Mr Max will never get another max deal. That talk about averaging 25/10 was silly.
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I can imagine the Pacers thinking they dodged a bulletDrewsprocket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:52 pmThat argument died long ago. He is an incredibly gifted person ability wise, probably a cool dude, but not driven to be a star. He earned himself his max deal at the last second. There won’t be a second max.specialsauce wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:15 pmSo it was silly.Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 4:17 pmI don't think so. He has the physical gifts to do so. Just not the drive and determination. That's why it was always tantalizing but now most of us see that that will never change.specialsauce wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 12:35 pmIs it time to declare this debate over. Mr Max will never get another max deal. That talk about averaging 25/10 was silly.
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I wonder how well Turner would do on this Suns team instead of Nurkic. I don't think they could play through Turner the same way they do Nurk, but he'd be a more dynamic finisher with 3-pointers and rim pressure.
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You can see why they wanted Sabonis. Would've been perfect.Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:35 pmI wonder how well Turner would do on this Suns team instead of Nurkic. I don't think they could play through Turner the same way they do Nurk, but he'd be a more dynamic finisher with 3-pointers and rim pressure.
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Well, I was clearly wrong on this one, disappointed in him. Won't matter to the Suns, though. If Nurkic can stay healthy the Suns won that trade.JJ Slim wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:22 pmI can imagine the Pacers thinking they dodged a bulletDrewsprocket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:52 pmThat argument died long ago. He is an incredibly gifted person ability wise, probably a cool dude, but not driven to be a star. He earned himself his max deal at the last second. There won’t be a second max.specialsauce wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:15 pmSo it was silly.Superbone wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 4:17 pmI don't think so. He has the physical gifts to do so. Just not the drive and determination. That's why it was always tantalizing but now most of us see that that will never change.specialsauce wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 12:35 pmIs it time to declare this debate over. Mr Max will never get another max deal. That talk about averaging 25/10 was silly.
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Gotta admit, I was wrong too. I remember saying, “If it ain’t OG, I ain’t interested.” When it turned out to be Grayson Allen, I was very disappointed. Turned out to be a good trade, even if it was “only” Allen.
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Did you really think the Suns could get Nurkic and OG Anunoby for Deandre Ayton?
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This is why guys like Flex are dangerous…well maybe not dangerous, but they make fans think more is possible.
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At this point, I'm glad it never happened. Sabonis is too small.TOO wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:43 pmYou can see why they wanted Sabonis. Would've been perfect.Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:35 pmI wonder how well Turner would do on this Suns team instead of Nurkic. I don't think they could play through Turner the same way they do Nurk, but he'd be a more dynamic finisher with 3-pointers and rim pressure.
I'd rather have Nurkic's size and strength on this team even if he's far less skilled than Sabonis.
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Ya just imagine what Giannis would have done to us that year if we started Sabonis at the 5
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I was wrong too about not wanting Turner. I think I was more open to Sabonis because of his rebounding, consistency, and playmaking would have helped mitigate how stagnant the offense would get under an injured CP3 and blitzed Book.
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DA returned last night after missing 3 games with a sore knee. Scored 14/9 in 21 minutes. Outscored by toomany buckets and scoot.
Over/under on how many games until he leads the team in scoring for a game?
Over/under on how many games until he leads the team in scoring for a game?
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Has that not happened yet? Even once?specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:39 amOver/under on how many games until he leads the team in scoring for a game?
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As Dennis Green would say, "He is what we thought he was!"specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:39 amDA returned last night after missing 3 games with a sore knee. Scored 14/9 in 21 minutes. Outscored by toomany buckets and scoot.
Over/under on how many games until he leads the team in scoring for a game?
Synchronicity and all that jazz, man.
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