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Re: 2024 Election
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:40 pm
by Mori Chu
I assume it means that the poll was done by IPSOS, that they surveyed 1,018 registered voters (RVs), on the date of 7/22.
Re: 2024 Election
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:47 pm
by Superbone
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:40 pm
I assume it means that the poll was done by IPSOS, that they surveyed 1,018 registered voters (RVs), on the date of 7/22.
OK, thanks. Then 1,018 stands out. Meaningless. Who were these registered voters? Was it a wide swath or a narrow one? Incredibly small sample size either way.
Re: 2024 Election
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:50 pm
by Nodack
Re: 2024 Election
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:51 pm
by Superbone
Ipsos factos
Re: 2024 Election
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 1:01 pm
by BigLewy
Ah, good ole Ipsos. I used to work there years ago, and revenue was always highest in election years due to these types of polls. A 1k sample size is ridiculously small and not indicative of anything really.
Re: 2024 Election
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 1:03 pm
by Nodack
Depending on where you took the poll you can get any results you want.
Re: 2024 Election
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 1:36 pm
by Split T
Nodack wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:32 pm
I see your point. The die hards won’t be swayed one way or the other but, I see where the undecideds will have a whole new equation to decipher.
Edit: I can only see how she helps the equation for Dems.
I agree, I wasn’t voting for Biden, but I’ll probably vote for Kamala
Re: 2024 Election
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 2:07 pm
by Nodack
I would literally vote for a box of rocks before voting for Trump.
Re: 2024 Election
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:08 pm
by Split T
Ya I was never voting for Trump either
Re: 2024 Election
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 6:05 pm
by Mori Chu
Lollll
Re: 2024 Election
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 12:17 am
by Nodack
Obama called Harris a Marxist fraud?
Re: 2024 Election
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 12:21 am
by Nodack
“There is a strong sense by many in the Democrat Party – namely Barack Hussein Obama – that Kamala Harris is a Marxist fraud who cannot beat President Trump, and they are still holding out for someone ‘better,'” Trump spokesman Cheung said.
They have to know that Obama is going to call BS on this and endorse Kamala.
Re: 2024 Election
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 6:51 am
by In2ition
You could also argue that they forced Obama's hand and boxed him in to where he had no choice but to endorse her, just to show that they were wrong.
Re: 2024 Election
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:18 am
by Mori Chu
In2ition wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 6:51 am
You could also argue that they forced Obama's hand and boxed him in to where he had no choice but to endorse her, just to show that they were wrong.
What evidence would there be to support that argument? Likely Obama just wanted to announce his endorsement on a particular date and in a particular way. This is somewhat common.
Re: 2024 Election
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:23 am
by In2ition
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:18 am
In2ition wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 6:51 am
You could also argue that they forced Obama's hand and boxed him in to where he had no choice but to endorse her, just to show that they were wrong.
What evidence would there be to support that argument? Likely Obama just wanted to announce his endorsement on a particular date and in a particular way. This is somewhat common.
He advocated for an Open convention prior.
The particular date was Yesterday, and he wanted his call to be recorded for her to be filmed taking it from a parking garage?
Re: 2024 Election
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:50 am
by Mori Chu
It is a little weird, I'll admit. My guess is that Obama didn't want to immediately endorse Kamala because he wanted it to be perceived as the Dem voters anointing Kamala, not "elites" like himself or other powerful people trying to "force" Kamala to be the choice. But he didn't anticipate that Biden would basically insist on it being Kamala as a condition of his stepping down, and that almost immediately 100% of the other viable contenders would step aside and endorse Kamala, and that there'd be this huge swelling of support for her within minutes of Biden's announcement. But I don't really know because Obama won't return my calls.
Re: 2024 Election
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 8:11 am
by In2ition
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:50 am
It is a little weird, I'll admit. My guess is that Obama didn't want to immediately endorse Kamala because he wanted it to be perceived as the Dem voters anointing Kamala, not "elites" like himself or other powerful people trying to "force" Kamala to be the choice. But he didn't anticipate that Biden would basically insist on it being Kamala as a condition of his stepping down, and that almost immediately 100% of the other viable contenders would step aside and endorse Kamala, and that there'd be this huge swelling of support for her within minutes of Biden's announcement. But I don't really know because Obama won't return my calls.
Did Biden actually insist on it being Kamala? There are conflicting reports on that, and people believe that they have evidence that it wasn't quite as nice as it's portrayed.
Re: 2024 Election
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 8:17 am
by TOO
The amount of blue dot rage farmers you post never ceases to amaze me.
Re: 2024 Election
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 8:50 am
by Mori Chu
At some point this stuff just gets silly. It's weird that people believe and repost these things so eagerly.
Re: 2024 Election
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 8:51 am
by Kryptonic
What's more egregious in my opinion is peoples inability to discern fact from fiction and regardless just repost it. It's like regurgitating vomit.