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Re: Kyrie Irving Trade Countdown
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:30 pm
by Superbone
JCSunsfan wrote:I honestly believe that Kyrie will be on the Cleveland roster at the beginning of the season, just like Keef was still on our roster after asking for a trade.
I think so too.
Re: Kyrie Irving Trade Countdown
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:43 pm
by Indy
Split T wrote:In2ition wrote:Split T wrote:
I'm still happy to take him for bled/Warren/Miami 1st, but that's my final offer.
Honestly, that's a great offer, IMO. It's more than fair value, but in their eyes it's not enough. I really could see Warren blow up this year.
I think so too, although I can see why Cleveland might not be too excited by him. If they are trying to build around LeBron, they may look at Warren and say, he doesn't really defend or shoot and isn't a great fit next to LeBron. If they are expecting LeBron to leave, Warren isn't exactly a rising star. Plus, they'd have to pay him next summer.
Maybe Bled to Cleveland, Warren and the Miami 1st to a third team and the third team sends a piece that fits better with LeBron.
Who says no:
Phoenix out: Bled, Warren, Miami 1st
Phoenix in: Kyrie
Cleveland in: Bled, Melo
Cleveland out: Kyrie, Frye
NY out: Melo
NY in: Warren, Frye, Miami 1st
Then Cleveland trades Love and Shumpert to Houston for Gordon and Anderson.
Bledsoe/Gordon/LeBron/Melo/Thompson
Houston would run
Paul/Harden/Ariza/Love/Capela
NY would run
Ntilikina/Hardaway/Warren/Porzingis/Hernangomez
And we'd run
Kyrie/Booker/Jackson/Chriss/Chandler
I would say no. I think a perfect fit vet, a good player still on a rookie contract, and a pick in the 15-20 range is too much for a guy that says he doesn't want to play for you, doesn't fit well with the #1 option on the team, and doesn't improve your team where you are lacking the most. Even if he is a very effective 1-1 scorer.
Re: Kyrie Irving Trade Countdown
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:48 pm
by Cap
Indy wrote:Split T wrote:In2ition wrote:Split T wrote:
I'm still happy to take him for bled/Warren/Miami 1st, but that's my final offer.
Honestly, that's a great offer, IMO. It's more than fair value, but in their eyes it's not enough. I really could see Warren blow up this year.
I think so too, although I can see why Cleveland might not be too excited by him. If they are trying to build around LeBron, they may look at Warren and say, he doesn't really defend or shoot and isn't a great fit next to LeBron. If they are expecting LeBron to leave, Warren isn't exactly a rising star. Plus, they'd have to pay him next summer.
Maybe Bled to Cleveland, Warren and the Miami 1st to a third team and the third team sends a piece that fits better with LeBron.
Who says no:
Phoenix out: Bled, Warren, Miami 1st
Phoenix in: Kyrie
Cleveland in: Bled, Melo
Cleveland out: Kyrie, Frye
NY out: Melo
NY in: Warren, Frye, Miami 1st
Then Cleveland trades Love and Shumpert to Houston for Gordon and Anderson.
Bledsoe/Gordon/LeBron/Melo/Thompson
Houston would run
Paul/Harden/Ariza/Love/Capela
NY would run
Ntilikina/Hardaway/Warren/Porzingis/Hernangomez
And we'd run
Kyrie/Booker/Jackson/Chriss/Chandler
I would say no. I think a perfect fit vet, a good player still on a rookie contract, and a pick in the 15-20 range is too much for a guy that says he doesn't want to play for you, doesn't fit well with the #1 option on the team, and doesn't improve your team where you are lacking the most. Even if he is a very effective 1-1 scorer.
This.
Re: Kyrie Irving Trade Countdown
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:00 pm
by Mori Chu
Kyrie Irving must have been really confused by why it got so dark today.
Re: Kyrie Irving Trade Countdown
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:47 pm
by Indy
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:Kyrie Irving must have been really confused by why it got so dark today.
I think there is still a way in their heads to have eclipses happen. Probably all think it is a man-made trick, or that the moon is a flat disc too and it went between the sun and flat earth.
Re: Kyrie Irving Trade Countdown
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:12 pm
by Mori Chu
Re: Kyrie Irving Trade Countdown
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:25 pm
by EDC
Shouldn't the Sun and the Moon also be discs?

Re: Kyrie Irving Trade Countdown
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:20 am
by 1tinsoldier
EDC wrote:Shouldn't the Sun and the Moon also be discs?

yes, following that logic.
and from the one angle i can view them, my balls should be discs too
Re: Kyrie Irving Trade Countdown
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:40 pm
by Superbone
EDC wrote:Shouldn't the Sun and the Moon also be discs?

According to Lon Babby they should be Steve Nash.
Re: Kyrie Irving Trade Countdown
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:36 pm
by Mori Chu
1tinsoldier wrote:EDC wrote:Shouldn't the Sun and the Moon also be discs?

yes, following that logic.
and from the one angle i can view them, my balls should be discs too

Re: Kyrie Irving Trade Countdown
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:07 pm
by Superbone
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/900115326175784961
Re: Kyrie Irving Trade Countdown
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:12 pm
by In2ition
Superbone wrote:https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/900115326175784961
Eventually someone cracks. Interesting, does this mean that Tatum is on his way out too, along with draft picks?
Re: Kyrie Irving Trade Countdown
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:19 pm
by Superbone
In2ition wrote:Eventually someone cracks. Interesting, does this mean that Tatum is on his way out too, along with draft picks?
That's what I'm wondering. Either Tatum or Brown.
Re: Kyrie Irving Trade Countdown
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:29 pm
by Superbone
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/900121788876824576
That would be a killing for the Celtics. Swap tiny Thomas for Kyrie?
Re: Kyrie Irving Trade Countdown
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:33 pm
by The Bobster
Superbone wrote:https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/900121788876824576
That would be a killing for the Celtics. Swap tiny Thomas for Kyrie?
Depending on what those picks are.
Re: Kyrie Irving Trade Countdown
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:12 pm
by jonh
The Bobster wrote:Superbone wrote:https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/900121788876824576
That would be a killing for the Celtics. Swap tiny Thomas for Kyrie?
Depending on what those picks are.
I really like this move for Boston. That will be a solid team next year.
Cleveland must really be in a tough spot if they are willing to trade one of their core players to what appears to be their toughest competition in the east.
Re: Kyrie Irving Trade Countdown
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:34 pm
by Sunsfan4life
Like this trade for the Cavs. No way we could of matched getting the unprotected Nets Pick and IT. It's a perfect mix for Cleveland, they get the future asset while getting a guy in IT who isn't a HUGE drop off from Kyrie. I actually don't are about the rest of the deal, Dealing Kyrie for that Nets pick is a Win for Cleveland IMO.
Re: Kyrie Irving Trade Countdown
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:37 pm
by Shabazz
Great haul for Cleveland. We made the right move not trying to match that.
Re: Kyrie Irving Trade Countdown
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:41 pm
by Shabazz
Here's the final haul:
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/900135849819590656
Re: Kyrie Irving Trade Countdown
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:46 pm
by In2ition
I would have thought they would have gotten more from Boston, since they are dealing with a Conference rival. I was hoping that the Suns could have worked out a good deal for Irving, but I'm not upset about it. I didn't want to lose Jackson, Warren or any of the picks.